The Steelers Take Down The Ravens -SB or BUST!

Chris:
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Chris: Yeah. And I'm so, I'm so excited about it. I can't even contain myself and look, look over here over my left shoulder. Look what we got. We got a little bit of, we got a little bit of bling back here in the studio now, because it's almost that time. It's almost it's time for bowl time. It's time to get excited. Yeah. Let's talk about this, man. So what do we do? We talk everything black and gold sports. And of course, right now, the story of the year is the Steelers. Maybe the secondary story of the year is the penguins.

Steve: Oh, the Steelers' start has been phenomenal. It's definitely, fortunately for the Penguins, outshining the Penguins' terrible start.

Chris: Yeah, so we're going to talk Steelers, we're going to talk Penguins. As you can notice, across from me in the studio, in headquarters, is Hockey Jesus. We're missing a figure. I am your technical director, Chris. To my right, usually, is the Grand Schwabini. However, the Grand Schwabini is currently out of the country. Yeah, we had to send him away. Yeah, there were some rumors that he was having a much better time than we assumed he would be having. But, you know, I guess when you're in Jamaica, You know, oh, he's in Jamaica. Those those are the those are the kinds of things you do. What do you do in Jamaica? Well, I'm going to show you what you do in Jamaica just here in just a quick second, because you think he wait.

Steve: Did he go with the great Amy May? No, no.

Chris: He went lonesome. He went lonesome. Apparently, he is a very accomplished individual and he feels that, you know, He shouldn't have to.

Steve: He shouldn't have to bring his wife with him everywhere. Shouldn't have to hang with us. He should be. Oh, there he is. Whoa. What is going on in that picture? Mark. Hello. Looks like he's got something sticking out of his mouth. Yeah. Something you can smoke on and a nice beverage there in the left hand.

Chris: I want to know, is that really Jamaica? I don't see any proof that that's Jamaica.

Steve: I mean, I do see a palm tree in the background. You know what? That's a really good point. Yeah. And he's wearing jeans.

Chris: Yeah. And he does have a purple wristband on. So, I mean, is that like a confinement situation? that we have going there.

Steve: Maybe he got consigned to Jamaica for the weekend. He's got to wear a purple bracelet. I don't know. We'll have to ask him hopefully when he gets back next week.

Chris: The Grand Schwabini is actually here in spirit. He will be back with us next week. I don't know if he's going to call in. I don't know if he's watching. I'm sure he's not. So what are we going to start with tonight? We are going to start with, of course, well, we do have Trader Joe's snack time. I got to mention that. Yes, very much. I missed it last week. We have a little bit of what we're watching going on. But right now, talk of the day. The Super Bowl, Super Bowl or bust for the Steelers. Boswell beats the Ravens. I want to say again with three field goals over 50 yards and I do yards and over. So I do have an exciting moment in that game that I that I do want to share with you.

SPEAKER_02: 57 yards for Chris Boswell.

Steve: Can he make it? Yes. Wow, at Akershire Stadium. Wow. Where did you get that? I got it. I got it on YouTube. YouTube is full of crazy people.

Chris: Yeah. I don't know what to tell you. But anyway, so yeah, Boswell six field goals. The Steelers are now eight and two solidly in first place in the AFC North. Um, I mean, wasn't really that much of an exciting game. Once again, I'm at work, you know, so I have to go back and watch. We tried to pull you in with some texting. I know. And you guys were really pissing me off.

Steve: We didn't, we did not give anything away because you made it clear you were at work. So we just wanted to make sure that you knew all about George Pickens. Yeah. Well, may or may not have scored. Yeah.

Chris: Yeah.

Steve: And, you know, I know the defense may or may not have been playing well, you know.

Chris: Well, yeah. What can I tell you? You know, I mean, I went back and I watched the highlights. Mike Lawrence is back this week commenting on Facebook. Thanks, Mike, for being here again. He says, I'm glad we won. And I don't care how field goals versus touchdowns. Two things. I feel like Broderick Jones is turning into a dumpster fire. And Arthur Smith has been studying Matt Canada's playbook. Uh, I, I, I am taking some issue with that there, but let's go, let's get, let's start what we usually do. Steve, good, bad, ugly for the Steelers. Let's hear your good.

Steve: Well, the good is they won and that's really about it. I mean, um, I can't think of like one single play where I was like, wow, that was, that was like a very good thing that, that they did there. That is not like the sealers. The only thing that really was good about that game was they won. I think there was a lot of bad and ugly, but when the zeros hit the scoreboard and, um, you're winning the game, you've won the game. That's all that matters. I'm just going to go with a win. Know that's pretty lame. Yeah, but I can't say I can't see the defense because the defense did play well If I was gonna say anything on the defensive side, it's and it's not surprising but it would be their ability To just be vital Lamar Jackson Yeah, they, that defense just knows how to play against him. And I don't know if this point he just, he, he does it to himself. And once again, the, the Ravens drop like Zay Flowers had a pass right in his hands and it doinked right off of him. It reminded me of last year's game. Remember when they, when they won that game because the Baltimore dropped like six passes, right. This was the only one that they dropped. But I just think, I just think that they're just, when they come in the Acura Shore now, used to be Heinz Field. Yeah, we all know that. They just fall apart. They can't, they can't play their game. And I love it. I just love that about, about this rivalry.

Chris: Yeah. I think the good was, I mean, there's an obvious good here. And that is that right now you have Chris Boswell as your kicker. Now we do have a sister show called the Sports Sports Philadelphia, which we do before this show. So if you have any interest in Philly sports, At 6 p.m. Eastern time, you can catch us there and you can also follow that on the podcast. And one of the bads from their game was Jake Elliott, who's been money, you know, for a couple of years. Well, I'm sure that's what Baltimore is saying about their team. About Tucker, yeah. And that's the thing is that you know, kickers, they're even the great kickers and Tucker is one of them. Um, Boswell is definitely up there becoming one of them. Um, Morton Anderson was one of them. Um, Gary Anderson was one of them. I mean, you can back, go back and name lots of zur line at one point was one of the great kickers, Vin and Terry. They go through spells where it's, it's like a, it's like a batter in baseball. It's like a hitter in baseball. It's not quite as defined. Like they're not going to go through four slumps a year because now they don't last on the team that long. True. But the good is that Boswell is having what is probably at this point, if he continues on this trajectory to be his best year ever.

Steve: Yeah, it's his best year. Anytime you can kick three field goals over 50 and it makes it look like you have their extra points. Yeah, that's very impressive. And that 57 yarder, if you would have said, you're kicking a 57 yarder at Heinz Field back in the day when they first went up, you'd be like, it might end up in the stands to the left or to the right. That's how off it would have been.

Chris: Well, and here's a question on Instagram from OC. Where do you think John Harbaugh falls in terms of coaching, a lead or not? He's been there a long time, but doesn't seem to get a lot of respect. I personally dislike him. Well, look, if you're a Steelers fan, you dislike him no matter what. Um, I would consider him an elite coach because if you think about it, how many Super Bowls does he have? One or two? I think he's got, I know he's got one. No, he's only got one. That's right. Because, uh, what's his name? Uh, Brian Billig has the first one. Yeah. Um, but, um, He's had to go through a lot of transitions in that franchise with different style quarterbacks. He won a Super Bowl with Flacco. Now he's got Lamar Jackson. I think he's an elite coach. However, when you put him up against Tomlin, Tomlin seems to have his number. That's hands down.

Steve: Well, I think they want to coach the same game. And when it comes down to being the home team, you always kind of have the last you always have that advantage, right? Because you know where everything is, you know, the field is going to be sloppy, you know, you know what to prepare for. And I just think that little bit of an advantage just throws off Harbaugh. Yeah, it does. And for that reason, I think we've won like seven in a row against them.

Chris: Yeah. Which is incredible. Eight and one in their last nine. Yeah. And something like seven or eight of them have come down to one score.

Steve: Of course. And that's, that's, you know, when, when Baltimore got the ball and they were down by eight, I was texting the counselor and I said, Hey, it's an elite defense. All they have to do is stop them twice from getting into the end zone.

Chris: Right.

Steve: Right. And they did, they stopped them the second time. Yep. But I just had a feeling like that defense doesn't, it's not a shut down defense there. They played really well. And honestly, if I'm going to add another good into the mix, I would say it would be the turnovers, right? The way they forced the turnovers. um, between queen and that interception by Wilson. Wow. Magnificent. I mean, come on, that might be the interception of the year.

Chris: Well, that's called not giving up on the ball as a defender.

Steve: And he got his arm in there in between him and the defender and he just ripped it loose and he, he held onto it as he was ripping it loose. I mean, that's just an incredible defense play. Absolutely. So, I mean, I think, I think that probably, clearly it was the turnovers and the fact that, you know, Derrick Henry fumbled the ball and he hasn't fumbled the ball in like 538. Second play of the game or something.

Chris: Second carry of the game.

Steve: He was so pissed off. Of course he was. He was so pissed off at himself. And it's just like, that's what happens to the Ravens when they come to Pittsburgh. they make those mistakes or the defense takes it away from them and then they just get all discombobulated.

Chris: Yep, yep. Jeff Paulus is in town here with us. Steelers beat the Ravens, not just Boswell. That is true. The defense had to play well. You know, the Ravens came into the game, I think, the number one scoring offense in the league.

Steve: Yep, they are the number one scoring offense in the league.

Chris: So, my good was going to be the play of the defense, and especially the linebackers. forcing those three turnovers. And that's something that we were worried about last week when we were talking about it. When I said, if the Ravens can exploit that soft underbelly, that zone between the linebackers and the secondary, and our linebackers can't manage the middle of the field, that's going to be the weakness. And I don't know, maybe they were listening to me.

Steve: Well, maybe, and the only good play that they had was that one long pass to Isaiah Likely. Other than that, their tight ends really didn't catch much. They only had five total, six total catches for, you know, it was ended up being over a hundred between him and Andrews, but Andrews only had two catches for like 22 yards.

Chris: Okay. The good, the bad, what is your, what is your good? If you're watching, you want to comment, if you're watching live, leave a comment. We're going to move on to the bad. H.J., what was the bad?

Steve: Clearly it's the red zone offense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, come on guys. Like, I think this is where Mike was going with his statement about Arthur Smith's playbook. That was just a ridiculous showing of getting the ball into the end zone. Right. They I don't understand how they can't come up with a way to run the ball properly or some sequencing of running and passing like they did at the end of the game with Justin Fields. I and I know I hear this all the time. No, you don't want to take Russell out because it ruins his rhythm. It messes him up. You know, if if he can, if Justin Fields could run the ball into the end zone and Russell Wilson can't, they got to try something different because they're not going to be able to kick six field goals against the Buffalo Bills if they play them in a in a playoff game and win that game. Yeah. They're not going to be able to do that against the Kansas City Chiefs. No. So if you want to win a playoff, maybe they get away with it against the Chargers or Denver, maybe. Right. But that's no way to win a game. They got to figure that out. To me, that was definitely the bad.

Chris: Now, Jeff says, why can't they just copy the Eagles and do that tush push in fourth and one?

Steve: Well, because they don't have a Barkley or Hertz that, you know, power lift 750 pounds when they squat.

Chris: I also think that's something that, that teams don't want to copy because they don't want to copy. I mean, I know the NFL is, is a copycat league, but I think that's something where they're just like, we, we, we don't want to copy.

Steve: No, I think seriously it's because those guys are so strong. They know how to do it and they're so strong. They have such great strength. Russell Wilson can't push a sled without hurting himself.

Chris: That's true. It is a big sled in his defense. It's not a sled you and I would push at all. That's why they can't, Jeff. All right. So the bad, what did you say the bad was for you? It was the red zone offense. The bad for me was the red zone offense as well. I don't, listen, you know, and addressing Mike Lawrence's comment, I, and I got to tell you, Mike, I love that you watch it. So, so grateful you're here. But I have to take, I have to take issue with, with this. Stop talking about Matt Canada. That's it. Yeah. Okay. This is gone. This is not Matt Canada's offense. Now I know that sometimes there are quest, there's questionable play calling and we're still having difficulty in the red zone. And, and yes, we have PTSD. We have, we have Canada, we have Canadian PTSD.

Steve: We definitely have Canadian PTSD.

Chris: I totally get It comes back every now and then in spurts. But get over it. Canada is gone and he has been gone. Arthur Smith knows how to call a professional football offense. That being said, yes. Why are we not? Here's the thing that I noticed in this game. Yeah. Three Attempts. I think Washington, Mount Washington caught one of them, Darnell Washington. We're starting to get him in the game more. Over the middle. Listen, that guy over the middle, Mike Lawrence says, OK, OK, point point taken. Uh, and going back to the defense, we held Derrick Henry under 100 yards and pressured Lamar Jackson. Right. Yeah, definitely. Um, but Darnell Washington has shown that he can run routes and he can catch passes. And let's get him into that. Let's get him into that offense more.

Steve: Well, you're seeing him being more of an option than Fryer-Muth. Absolutely. And I think that's probably frustrating Fryer-Muth, but you know what? If he can't block, then he can't be on the field all the time. Right. And that's what happens.

Chris: Well, and the other thing about Washington is if he can work on his skills, first of all, he can catch the ball and he can run. And he's also as big as Godzilla.

Steve: So it's true. He can catch the ball because that one pass that Wilson threw to him, he threw it before he was looking and he threw it really hard and he turned around and he grabbed it. I mean, his one hand is bigger than the football. I know, but sometimes guys with big hands can't put them in the right spot.

Chris: OC says, is Washington bigger than Eric Green? Yeah. Yeah, he is. I don't even have to look up the stats there. The guy's like 6'6", 290. Yeah, he is. He's huge. He's bigger, yeah. But he's fast, and he can catch the ball. Get him into the offense. He's more talented, yeah. Get him into the offense. So the bad for me was definitely the red zone. And it wasn't the, it was the plays called in the red zone. I think Darnell Washington is the kind of guy that should have six touchdowns already this year. That's my, my, you know, and I hate to say, look, Friar Muth fans, he's a great kid. And, you know, we were, we were so desperate to replace Heath Miller that we basically indoctrinated, not indoctrinated, we basically coronated Pat Friar Muth as Heath Miller. He's not Heath Miller. He's not.

Steve: No, he can't block nearly as well.

Chris: He's shifty. He's shifty. And he's good for us. He's good for a seam route. He's good once in a while over the middle. He could be a possession tight end, but he is not the answer. Now, that being said, I don't think Darnell Washington is the second coming of Gronkowski or Travis Kelsey. It's good to have a hell of a look. He's a hell of an option that we need to get into this game more. Yeah. And that being said, this is all about a win over Baltimore. You know, it's like that bad part of it was not really that bad. Anything ugly about the game?

Steve: Yeah, there were two ugly things. I agree with the Broderick Jones statements about the penalties. He's got to get a handle on his temper. I think if he could figure out how to channel that energy that he has, not towards the refs and not towards holding guys. And when he gets caught, he needs to focus more on, Oh, I got caught. I got to stop doing that. As opposed to, come on, I was barely holding him, you know, because you can call holding every, every play pretty much. But when you start complaining, then they start looking more. When they start looking more, they start throwing the flag more. And that's a problem. Yeah. I love his energy. Yeah. And I think they have, I think they've treated him wrong by putting him on the right hand side, but he's there now and he's the best option there. So they gotta, they gotta, they gotta find a way to motivate him to, to want to reel that in. I think that was bad. The other thing that I think was bad was this is ugly. Oh, I'm sorry. Ugly. Yep. Sorry. That was ugly. So you can get that straight now. Yeah. I already, I already talked about the bad. Yeah. The, the, the other ugly is where was Mike Williams? Yeah, I don't I don't understand why the offense can't suddenly just incorporate him. I mean, they threw the one moon ball to him and it was a great moon ball and it was the best moon ball we've ever seen in Pittsburgh in the past couple three years.

Chris: Well, it's because it won the game.

Steve: But I didn't see him in the game at all. I mean, does he does he not? Can he learn the playbook? Can't they like get him in there? I don't understand. Like they had Jefferson on that one route near near the end zone and he just dropped it.

Chris: Well, that's a that's a play call and a quarterback. um, selecting who he's going to throw the ball to.

Steve: So they got to get him more involved with the offense. And I think it's ugly that he's on the sidelines.

Chris: I do. I agree as well because even he's better than anybody we have, but George Pickens, I don't care what anybody says about where he is.

Steve: So Calvin Austin, the third CA three dropped the ball to, I mean, different receiver, different style. I know, but both of these guys, if they catch those balls, that's, it makes a big difference. And they weren't easy balls to catch. Um, and Jefferson's was only like a seven yarder, but it was on third down and it probably would have gotten us a first down inside the 10. Instead, we kick a field goal.

Chris: So on instagram for 14 karat gold goes back to the Washington comments we were making, but he didn't jump for that touchdown throw.

Steve: Yeah, I didn't understand that. That should be your ugly.

Chris: Yeah, that he should have jumped. Well, for him, that is kind of ugly.

Steve: I don't know why. I mean, so first of all, the Steelers got a little greedy there. They probably just thrown it away and taken the three points. Yeah. But I'm happy that we have a quarterback that wants to score touchdowns. Yeah. And he gave the guy a chance. The guy just didn't do anything with it.

Chris: And OC says, think we'll start seeing Justin Fields gadget plays. Would it be a good time to? Weren't there weren't there a couple in this game? There were at the end.

Steve: Yeah, yeah, they I think you've already seen it. And it was funny, because I was texting with Scott. And I said, Why don't they put Justin Fields out there when it's third and six, like he can run for six yards and get the first down, just roll them out. And he can still throw the ball. Yeah. I mean, the other ugly was when he slid on that for on that third down, slid short of gaining the sticks. And they could have that would have been the game. But instead, you know, they had to go through the routine.

Chris: Yeah, for me, the ugly was the passing game. And I don't think that Russell was ugly, ugly. He was 23 of 36 for 205 yards. He did have that interception. Yeah, that was ugly. You know, he did find George Pickens on a couple beautiful passes. Pickens had eight for 89, but nobody else had more than four. And two of those, those two guys were Harris and Warren, which are checkdowns. True. So, you know, now Darnell Washington, two for 42, Fryerman two for 14. And then, yeah, Williams, nothing. Nothing, no. No targets. The ugly for me, and now again, it wasn't Russ Wilson ugly because he's putting the ball in the air. He's trying to score touchdowns. I think it is, I think it's a replay of the beginning of the season with fields where you could see that Smith was rolling that offense out very slowly game by game. Yeah. Wilson gets healthy. He comes in even Wilson's first game. He looked really good, but you didn't see the whole offense. Now all of a sudden you have Mike Williams in there and it's and Andy's trying to get Darnell Washington more involved. And I think that maybe we've taken a step back what I'm looking forward to is hopefully when we play the Browns on Thursday night, they're not afraid. I mean, if this is a game to open the whole damn playbook up, this is the, I know the Browns defense has great players now, you know, they're, you can't call them a great defense because the team sucks. But this is the game where you open up the whole playbook because the Brown, the Browns, they just, I know it's a division game, but I just feel like they're not even they're not even going to play. I mean, I hate to say it. I don't want to jinx it.

Steve: The Browns will definitely come to play because this is going to end up being their Super Bowl. I mean, they're two and eight. Right. So they don't have anything to play for except for the run in our season.

Chris: It's in Cleveland.

Steve: So they're going to come out and play. Yo, yo, take them lightly. Go ahead. Yo son says something pretty interesting. Sneak Ben's chronic and for more offensive plays. That's what the Steelers offense is missing a slot receiver. They need somebody that can catch that five yards, hit them and then have them take off, you know? And that's why you're, that's, that's the problem. They don't have that receiver.

Chris: Why not put Austin in the slot and send him on the slam play? He's fast. I don't think he can run patterns that well. Well, he's got to start practicing. 414 karat gold says the receivers don't get open, right? Yeah, that's that's why. And also the good. This is on Instagram. Thanks for being there. The good defense digging deep to make impact plays. And hey, listen, anybody who thought this wasn't going to be a classic Steelers Raven slugfest?

Steve: I love the I love the fighting. I love all that stuff. Yeah, I think that's great for the game.

Chris: Yeah. And I think it's I think it's fantastic.

Steve: A lot of extracurricular little business going on in there.

Chris: Yeah, I love that. Nothing like business. Nothing like business.

Steve: Giving them a little bit of business under the pile and you never know what's going on under the pile.

Chris: We all love a little business under the pile. Heck yeah. All right, so listen, Grant Schwabini's not here, but he did phone in his predictions, which I have to pull up on my text here. But in case you just joined us, if you're watching us live on social media, you're watching us right now on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, X, and two different Instagram channels all over the world every Monday night at 7.30 Eastern Time. We're also, I'm going to drop this podcast right after the show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your frigging podcasts. And I'm going to drop this link. This is the streaming link in the comments right now. This is our sister radio station. This is the link to the stream. You can just listen to us live when we're on the air. You can listen to Radio PGH anytime, radiopgh.com. Jeff thinks I should be the slot receiver. What do you think? No. I can tell you one thing I can do if I get out there, run. I'm just not going to be running in the direction they want me to. I'm going to be running the other way.

Steve: Yeah. I think that's safer. That's the safest way to run.

Chris: Get me the hell out of here.

Steve: Yeah. Nobody wants to be over the middle. Not even wide receivers who can run a 4-3-40.

Chris: Russ needs to channel his inner fields and run a little instead of throw it away. That says yo-ho, son.

Steve: I don't know. I think he's too old to be doing that. That's why I like to see fields in there. I think if he was young enough to be able to do that, I'd say yes, but I just don't think he's got the speed. I don't think he's got the legs anymore.

Chris: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think he's good for a wide open, maybe five yards if he needs to get it, but to get 10 or 12. That's going to be tough and the last thing we need is him getting injured. Now, as fate would have it, the Steelers play Thursday night and we're going to move on to our NFL predictions. The Grand Schwabini, as I said earlier, he dialed his predictions in via text. I just want to remind everybody that the Grand Schwabini is not with us this week because he is somewhere smoking a cigar. Drinking beer. He said Jamaica, but we're not really sure about. I also think maybe he's just completely gone crazy because he's got that purple wristband on and it could be an institution. He might have been institutionalized.

Steve: Everybody needs a break every now and then. It's probably good for him to be honest with you. I'm getting a break this weekend with the scouts. There you go. So what?

Chris: All right. I don't want to go down that road. I'm glad he's not here for that. Uh, our NFL predictions every week. What do we do? Well, we take the, uh, Thursday night game, the Sunday night game, and then a pick them game. And we make our predictions. We want you to predict with us. So drop a prediction in the comments. When we give you the games this year so far, um, last week, Mark was 1-2, Steve was 2-1. Mark's first losing record in a while. I was 3-0. Mark is now 21-9, Steve is 18-12, and Chris is now back to a respectable 14-16. I'm surging, Grand Schwabini. I'm surging.

Steve: Two more weeks of 2-1 and you'll be at 500. I know.

Chris: Crazy, isn't it? You can do it. How about if I just go 3-0 this week? Let's try that. Well, I think you're asking a little much. All right. So, as fate would have it, we're walking right into a Steelers-Cleveland prediction. Put your pick in the comments. What do you got, H.J.? Actually, I'll give us Grant Schwabini. Grant Schwabini is Steelers at Browns. He's taking Steelers.

Steve: He's taking the Steelers. Yep. Well, I had to go back to my 2024 predictions at the beginning of the year, because I like to try and stay consistent with my picks and only only stray from that if I absolutely have to. By the way, I am. I've only lost two games all year picking the Steelers. I lost the Atlanta game and I just lost the Baltimore game. I thought they would lose to Baltimore, even though I did pick them to win this in the predictions. I'm going with Pittsburgh. I think I think Pittsburgh really It's not going to be an easy one. Put it this way. I think Cleveland could go up 14-0 and then end up losing 35-21. Because that's the kind of game Cleveland plays. They are just terrible defensively. They've got a lot of gaffes. They've got a lot of holes in their defense. And all you have to do is exploit it once and then you can just continue to do it. They don't know how to plug that hole.

Chris: I think this is the game that Arthur Smith opens up the playbook. I think Russ is probably frustrated. I think he wants to throw the ball more. I think Cleveland is just, they're just a dumpster fire again. I know Jameis Winston is like, oh, I'm a starting quarterback again. Dude, his career career is over anyway.

Steve: So his whole career has been I can throw for 350 to 400 yards every game and for interceptions and go and my team will go four and 12.

Chris: Right? Exactly. So but I think our defense is gonna I don't think I think we're gonna win this game hands down. So Mark Steven, Chris pick the Steelers. What's your pick in the comments? Sunday night game, big game Eagles all the way across the country at the Rams. By the way, Schwaber, of course, he is taking the eagles. Oh, he did. He took the eagles. Wow. He is. He's a homer. He's picking the eagles.

Steve: Well, I know he loves the his eagles, but normally like when they're playing on the West Coast, he always makes up some reason to pick against them. I don't know. I mean, the Rams kind of have to win to hold pace with that crazy five and five division out there. I think everybody's in and everybody in that division is like five and five, aren't they?

Chris: Yeah, except for the Cardinals. The Cardinals are 6-4, but everybody else is 5-5.

Steve: Right, so 6-4 versus a 5-5. I think I'm going to take the Rams. I think they have to win to hold serve, and I don't think the Eagles have to win.

Chris: Yeah, I mean, it is an NFC game, so it has some bigger implications on head-to-head record. I think the Eagles won a big game against the Commanders after a slow start. Now, in our previous Philly show, I said they need to get out to a fast start here. I agree with that. Let's see. Mike Lawrence, by the way, going back, these comments come in late. So 24, Steelers 24, Browns 10. Kevin Dick 66. Get your dicks on 66. I bet you you can. Doug can't afford to lose this on Instagram. Can't afford to lose to the clowns. Don't lose the view of the long term goal of winning the division, winning a winning a or more playoff game, winning a winning a play. Yes, I think we understood that.

Steve: Everybody knows that's the goal.

Chris: All right. We're taking the Rams. I actually think that the Eagles are going to win this game. It's tight, though, because this is a classic trap game. I talk about the Eagles. Yeah. but I'm gonna take the Eagles in that and Schwaber took the Eagles. Okay, the Sunday game. The Sunday game, we have picked, ooh, this is a big one. This is a pick-em game. 49ers at the Packers. Oh, that's a classic. 49ers are 500, not looking good right now for them. The Pack, a team on the rise.

Steve: Yeah, and the Packers are looking for revenge. What did Schwaber take?

Chris: The Grand Schwabini took the Packers.

Steve: Oh man, this is a really tough game to pick. I love the Packers at home. It's a revenge game against the 49ers. Oh man, but the 49ers kind of have to win the hold serve too. I'm gonna go with, I'm just gonna go with my gut, the 49ers, and I don't know why.

Chris: Yeah, and that's exactly what I'm doing.

Steve: I can't, logically I can't explain why, but I'm just going with my gut. My gut says take the 49ers on the road.

Chris: Yeah, and I think this is a game where this is the must game. If the 49ers end up five and six, not a good situation for them.

Steve: No, there's too many, especially with the Cardinals surging, which nobody saw.

Chris: No, as a matter of fact, if they end up five and six, I say they miss the playoffs.

Steve: Well, yeah, because they're going to be other dad, definitely the other teams with better records for the wildcard.

Chris: Yeah. And this is this is a must. This is a must win game for them, no matter what must win game. I'm there with you, brother. OK, so there you go. We have now in our house, we have somebody who we love to bring in to talk about. Hockey, and his name is Hockey Jesus, and Hockey Jesus, who's sitting right across from me, can be followed on YouTube at the Sports Porch Podcast. Hockey Jesus preaches after every single Penguins game, gives you his analysis, gives you his sermon, tells you like it is, and this year I'm kind of down because it's not looking that great.

Steve: You're not the only one who's down.

Chris: Yeah, I know. So you want to lay a little hockey Jesus. Can we have an uplifting sermon? Or is this just a, it's over?

Steve: Well, no, it's not. It's not over. So they're at the, you know, they're basically at the quarter mile mark, which is, you know, you're only 25% of the way in. There's this theory in hockey that says if you're out of the playoffs by Thanksgiving, then you're not going to make it. And it's a pretty crazy theory. But it's really does hold true. And but I think it you can be like on the cusp of getting in. So what I did was I looked at I looked at the teams that are out there and where Pittsburgh is, by the way, Pittsburgh is now third from the bottom in the east. If you look at trending points, okay, right. So that's bad. That means you're not even close to making a playoff You're not even close to making the playoffs. The team in the playoffs right now would be Carolina, Washington, New York Rangers, Florida, Toronto, New Jersey Devils, Tampa Bay Lightning, and then you kind of have a slew of teams. You have Boston, Philly, New York Islanders, and the Senators all trending to be in that last spot. So you have four teams right now that are, that the Penguins have to jump over. And I actually think they have to jump over the Sabres in Detroit, right. To be able to, to be in that position. I broke it down and, and I'll, I'm not going to go into extreme detail. Um, but I broke, I broke it down as to how difficult it is when you lose like five or four in a row to get back to, uh, you know, an 80 win a 90 win season right now. Um, the first seven teams are, are, are trending so that they would score 95 points or more. And that's where I thought this, that's where I thought the penguins had to be. They're trending to be a 70 point team. That's how disappointing they have been in the in the first quarter of the season I think their trend their trend is a probably about 20 points from where I thought they would be at this time So that means that they're not making anything and they got to do something different Well

Chris: Are you going to be able to make it through all 82 games?

Steve: Oh, yeah, no problem. I'll make it through 82 games. I did actually analyze part of their problems. And here's what I'm going to give you guys. I usually save this for my podcast, but since you're here and we're talking hockey, I feel like I owe it to my sports porters here. They have the worst goal differential in the NHL, a minus 25. That means they score 25 goals less than the other teams that they play. That's terrible. And it's all because of the goalie situation that nobody saw coming. Everybody thought Tristan Jari was going to come in and be the number one goalie, and he's not. He's an absolute head case. He's a basket case. He's the worst, probably the worst goalie in the system right now. The problem is they can't bring up bloomquist because he's not quite ready to be the starter. Although he's probably talented why Talent wise our best goalie at this point and ned is just a backup. I'm, sorry, but ned can't be the number one goalie Ned has to be the backup. So what the penguins are going to have to do is they're going to have to bite the bullet they're going to have to play Tristan Jari probably five of the next seven games. That hurts. And they have to see if he is going to be the man or the penguins are going to get a lottery pick. Yeah. And honestly, at this point I'm trending towards a lottery pick. Yeah. Just because, Part of the thing that Dubis was brought in to do was keep the Penguins relevant, which he hasn't really done a very good job of this year.

Chris: I was going to say this year, it's only been basically two years, almost.

Steve: Yeah. But the last two years they didn't make the playoffs. So to me, that's not relevant, but he did, he is doing a very good job of accumulating draft picks. They have 30, they have, 29 draft picks in the next three years in seven rounds. Yeah, that's pretty good. And actually, um, 14 of them are in the top in the first three rounds, which is where you get all the talent for the first, for the foreseeable future. So that is, I think the trend you're going to see, they're probably going to sell off some more guys. You know, they got rid of, uh, Eller for draft picks. I think you'll probably try, they'll probably try and get rid of, I can't believe they'd get rid of Raquel, but maybe. They might get rid of Raquel. Marcus Pedersen's probably going to go, too.

Chris: ISKRA So OC on Instagram says he wants you to recap. H.J., what was the points total needed to make the playoffs again?

Steve: I say they have to trend around 95 points. And right now, the only teams that are trending at 95 points are Carolina, the Capitals, the Rangers, Florida, Toronto, New Jersey, and Tampa Bay. Yeah, like the usual suspects. And that's the top seven. And then you have Boston, Philly, New York Islanders and senators trending around 82. Yeah. So I think those teams are still definitely in it and can easily make it into the playoffs. But remember, they're only They're 20 points from the bottom, right? If they got 20 points higher, they would only be in fifth place, right? That's how high the top three or four are that you've got to try and catch. Yeah. So the good news is, is we did beat the capitals and they're up there. I think the capitals are going to fall down. They're trending at 120 points. They're not going to get 120 points this season. So they're gonna fall back. And I think Toronto's where they are, 103 points. That sounds right. The Devils are at 101 points. I think that's probably about right. Tampa Bay's at 97. I think they could trend higher or lower. I'm not sure what's gonna happen with them. It's all about Vasilesky for them. If he catches on fire, they can easily go higher.

Chris: I do want to… I do want to comment here on some, this news broke right before the show started and it's actually baseball related.

Steve: Yeah. Can we finish the hockey segment? You want to? Yeah. Let's just finish up the hockey segment.

Chris: All right. I thought it was important to get in here, but go ahead. Please. No. H.J. can't stand the pirates.

Steve: Well, I know it's going to be pirate news, and I'm ready to talk some pirates, actually, because I think there are some things to talk about. The last thing that the penguins have a problem with is the salary cap. They've had to take on some salary people to get those draft picks. I think Cody Glass and Kevin Hayes are two guys that probably need to go. The problem is Kevin Hayes, nobody's going to want to take his $3.5 million. And so I don't know how you're going to get rid of him unless you start playing him and he starts playing well. So they're probably going to have to play him and it's going to be the detriment of their third line now, which I think is playing pretty good, which is Drew O'Connor. Uh, uh, Pouston, uh, Pouston, no, no pulley RV and a pull in. They brought pool at Sam pulling up. He's one of our number one draft picks. He's got to stay up. He's got to be a guy who's got to be figured into the future of the Pittsburgh penguins. And he's a good third liner. I love that third line. They've, they've played really well, but they kept them together last two games. and they were one of the better lines. Now, they're not going to score points every night, but they're out there, they're getting scoring opportunities, and they actually did score a goal the other night. So I think if they can get a goal every other night, that's exactly what you want from your third line. And Sidney Crosby, by the way, one goal away from 600. His next will be the 600th since Alex Ovechkin did it like six years ago. Wow. Six years ago. It was, it was, it was a while. I wrote it down on my other sheet. I don't have it here, but, um, yeah, he's, it's been a while since we've seen a 600 goal scorer and, um, again, LA was before him. So you don't see it very often. So the next goal for Sidney Crosby will be history. Let's hope it's in a victory tomorrow night against Tampa Bay lightning.

Chris: So you're trending towards, this is going to be more of a lottery pick year.

Steve: I think, I think so. Yeah. They haven't in the, since game seven. And so in the last 13 games, this is where they've been. They've been in that 70 point range. Right. They've only been up into the, uh, into the nineties once. Right. And they've been in the eighties for a couple of times, but not, they, they get up there and then they fall flat. They can't maintain that. And it's just because they're, they're too old. They actually don't have enough talent. And the goalie situation is really a disaster. And I did talk about this. You'll have to go back and listen to my last podcast. I talked about the Sully system and how the Sully system is, is letting them down. That is not helping. And if they continue to lose, you just might have to cut loose Sully. Um, but actually think you keep him, you get better players and then his system might work better.

Chris: All right, well, this is Hockey Jesus and you can follow Hockey Jesus on YouTube at the Sports Porch podcast. And of course, after every single Penguins game, it's only 10 minutes out of your life. Yeah. And, and, and, you know, we all listen to him in there. I actually watch him cause I like to watch you.

Steve: You're you. You like to see what I got on my bulletin board over there.

Chris: So, uh, so this is the Sports Porch black and gold edition live right now on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, Instagram, and X. And of course I'll drop the podcast right after the show. Did I see some food delivered? Yeah, you did. We're getting to that on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify. I can smell it, too. Can't you smell it out there on radio, Liam? Yeah, I'm sure you can. Anywhere you listen to your friggin' podcasts. But I do want to get this in there. This was breaking while we were setting up the show. Congratulations to Paul Skeens, 2024 NL Rookie of the Year. All right. Absolutely. Let's go get that Cy Young now. Absolutely. I'm actually reading this from ESPN. The final tally skeins had one hundred and thirty six votes votes for rookie of the year twenty three Jackson have twenty three first place votes. Jackson Merrill one hundred and four seven first place. Doesn't matter the rest of them. Now those are really only two in contention. Yeah, he emerges the winner of the star-studded NL rookie class. It was deep and impact performances put up by high upside prospects who should only get better. Skeens was absolutely dominant. He is also a finalist for the National League Cy Young race. Yes, he is. Yes. Still, we're talking about 23 games. Congratulations to Paul Skeens. Yeah, you can't really make a case. This is what ESPN is saying. You really can't make a case against Skeens for the Cy Young, 23 games or not. Since earned runs became official in 1913, Skeens became the fourth pitcher with a strikeout rate of at least 11 per nine innings while posting an ERA under two. yep um he's that good yeah really congratulations to paul skeens congratulations to pirates fans i mean listen you got to have something to he's a winner man you got no doubt about it yeah now all you got to do is go out and find his debut patch in those chrome boxes really yeah and then you can have 30 years worth of season tickets to a shit show or you could give it the golden and make a golden yeah whatever Let me tell you, man, uh, nodding, sell, look, nodding. If, if, if you don't sign good players this year and start putting a winner on the field, just sell the damn team, sell the team, listen to the billboards, listen to the billboards, read the bill.

Steve: We're a hundred percent behind those guys.

Chris: Absolutely. We'd like, we should have them on the, we're going to get them. We're going to get them. That's your job. You reach out. I will. I make all the little videos. You reach out and get them. I absolutely will. Right after hockey season. So. All right. Maybe you'll actually begin after our after our next segment here because you did. Yes, you did. Smell food. My favorite. Yep.

SPEAKER_02: Taste the biscuit. Taste the goodness of the biscuit.

Steve: Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.

Chris: All right. Well, everybody knows what that means. That means it's Trader Joe's snack time. And I work at Trader Joe's. That's my day job. They did not pay us to do this, so it's not a paid sponsorship, but I did get permission. So what we do is every week I bring home a Trader Joe's product. You've had this one. I know it. I have not actually. Oh, no. And we serve it up here and give our honest opinion. This time, my lovely wife, the Pittsburgh Property Diva, Lauren Klein. Thank you, Lauren. She did the preparation and brought it down to us, so we have to give her props. You can visit her at pittsburghpropertydiva.com.

Steve: And she brought down Sassy with her. She did. Thank God for that. Sassy's our dog.

Chris: This is our dog. Sassy is our dog. Our dog mascot. This week, beef burrito. Slow cooked beef in a savory tomato and chili sauce. Okay. Sounds a little spicy. I don't know if it is or not, but what I can tell you is what they suggest is that you like make tacos with it or put it on stuff as well. So bread is important. Yeah. So we're just going to eat right out of the bowl. I'll let you try first. Uh, I'm going to put that carton up there. Oh my goodness.

Steve: This looks, uh, this looks, uh, good. Wow. This looks a very, um, beefy and Berea-y. I don't know how to explain it. Muddy? Muddy. Oily. Very oily. Yeah.

Chris: Yep. I don't know if it's still hot. It should be warm-ish. Is it good? Somebody else at the store told me it was pretty good. Hmm. They like it.

SPEAKER_02: Mm hmm.

Steve: Let me tell you, if you had like a hot roast beef sandwich before and you put like a little, uh, you put a little Frank's red hot in it. That's exactly what that tastes like. It's like a good roast beef sandwich that you can just put on a bun and it's just like dripping everywhere. It's got great flavor. Yeah, you can definitely taste the chili in it for sure. 100%. I took the largest bite possible. Oh yeah. You're going to be chewing on that thing for a while. I am.

Chris: I'll tell you what though. That would be great on like a Mancini bun.

Steve: Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what you need. Little bun. You can even you can even put a little cheese on it if you want it. It's because it's a little spicy. It needs something to take that little spice away.

Chris: They actually suggest like slicing up some onions and stuff and putting them in there. That's too much effort, you think?

Steve: Yeah. If I'm going to put something in the microwave, I'm just going to put it in the microwave and I'm going to pull it out and slap it on a bun.

Chris: Well, speaking of effort, This takes about five minutes in the microwave. Yeah, perfect. That's all it is. Perfect. All right. There you have it. The perfect beef burrita from Trader Joe's and our Trader Joe's. Two thumbs up. Snack time. Two thumbs up. And there it is.

Steve: Mark's going to be disappointed he missed that.

Chris: Yeah, he would have liked that. He might have had it already. He goes to Trader Joe's a lot.

SPEAKER_02: All right.

Chris: All right. Well, there you go. There you have a Trader Joe's snack time. Thanks a lot.

Steve: I haven't had a Trader Joe's segment in a little while. Were you, you weren't here last week.

Chris: No, I was at the hockey game. What do we have? Shumai. I think we had chicken Shumai last week.

Steve: Yeah. That sounds familiar. Yeah. It's pretty good.

Chris: Um, all right. Next up on the docket here, we're going to do a little bit of what we're watching. I'm going to explain this to you. What are we watching? What does that mean? Well, I'm burping beef Berea. That's not what it means, but that's not what it is. There's a lot of things out there. There's a lot of streaming, uh, services. We all know that, uh, Netflix blew the Tyson, uh, Jake Paul, by the way.

Steve: Oh yeah.

Chris: Did you watch that live? I had, I gotta tell you, I know the whole world, especially guys our age, people our age, basically, wanted to watch this. Who wouldn't want to watch Mike Tyson fight again? Fight again. At almost 60 years old. 58 years old, right. And then of course, everybody knows pretty much the Jake Paul story, the YouTube phenom, his brother, blah, blah, blah.

Steve: Teaching himself out of box. All right, so.

Chris: Doesn't care about money. I'm going to preface this by saying I did not watch it. I did. But I saw, so I saw the highlights. I don't think there were any highlights. There were. Other than the chick, you know, the woman, the ring girl that's now world famous. She's the one that benefited the most. Well, she deserved. And I think it's justifiable. Justifiable, absolutely. I can tell you, I started following her. Yeah, sure. Couldn't help it. Hey. And if she was anywhere near. Everybody wins in this situation. Yeah. If I saw her down the street, I'd started following her would take on a whole new meaning, I guess. Anyway, the point I'm making is that… I don't think she lives down the street in Monroeville. You can address the… No, she doesn't. But you can address the broadcast itself. Yes. But from what I saw, the fight itself… Yeah. What a sham. So complete sham.

Steve: So I knew it was going to be on. Right. I knew it was starting at eight o'clock. And of course I had hockey on. So I'm like, okay, I know that the, the, the, the boxing isn't going to be at eight o'clock. So I watched the hockey game, hockey games over. I do my hockey Jesus. It's 10, 10 30 or something like that. And I turn it on and actually I saw it was trending, of course, on X, right? I knew I knew I knew it was trending on X. Right. So I'm like, oh, and it's trending because you can't see it. You can't watch it. It's terrible. Right. It's everything. I'm like, so I I immediately had to click on just to see what it was like. I could see it. I had no spinning problems, but the picture was a little blurry, 100%. People are used to perfect clarity in their televisions now, so when it's a little blurry, that's going to drive people crazy. It didn't drive me crazy, but then I'm like, two chicks are going to be fighting. I don't want to watch this. So I started watching a show of what I'm going to talk about here in a second. And I watched the show and it's, you know, 45 minutes an hour and I put it back on and I see the, it's the end of the, the, the woman fight. Right. Yeah. And They're all bloody and they're like a mess. And I'm like, Oh, I got to go back and watch this fight. Right? So I went back to the beginning and watch the fight. Best fight I've ever seen in my life. You're talking about the fight before the fight, dude. These two women, I guess they've boxed before so they know their style, and the one had a gash, I'm not kidding you, it was this thick. It was, for you on the radio, it was probably half an inch thick, the hole above her brow, and it was just like a big gouge in her eye. And I thought, oh man, she really took a beating. But what happened was the, the one boxer, um, she, she, uh, she leaded with her head. She led with her head and she cut her with her, with her head. She actually lost a point. But I'm telling you, this fight was right out of Rocky because they would just go, boom, they would just start with punches left and right and left and right. And the one woman would, would hit the other one and, and she would like stagger back and then she, she would hit her again and she would be like, oh, you're not hitting me again.

Chris: He started punching her. So in other words, that was the real fight.

Steve: Oh man. It was incredible. And I'm, I'm not a boxing fan. I could care less about boxing, but I can tell you that was a real boxing match. Anything after that would have been bad. And the Tyson Paul match was absolutely horrible.

Chris: I honestly, I think, I think the entire public got sold a bill of goods just so they could get Tyson could get his money. I think it's horrible.

Steve: You know me, I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist when it comes to these sorts of things, because this is definitely a staged thing. I know that this was staged and I knew it was going to be terrible, but I still had this, I still, I didn't watch it that night because I, then I went back to it and they're still talking about stuff. I'm an old man. It was 1130. I needed to get to bed. Right. And plus I knew it was being recorded anyway. So I went to bed, I watched it in the morning and it took me 10 minutes and it wasn't even worth my 10 minutes.

Chris: Yeah. What I think is amazing is in this day with social media and instant access to video stuff that, you know, what I was watching online today when I would get, when I would wander over to this kind of shit, it was, um, uh, videos of Tyson training and then videos of Tyson and it's like, I mean, he, in all honesty, if they'd had a real fight, I think he would have kicked the ever loving shit out of Jake Paul. That's what I think.

Steve: Maybe, but he would have had to do it in the first couple of rounds cause you could tell he was, he was labored. I agree by the time they got to the third or fourth round. I agree. But you was tired.

Chris: Look at his look at his training sessions and how quickly and how hard he was hitting. I saw how fast he was. Yeah. You're telling me that didn't show up in the ring. You know that without didn't show up on purpose. That was ridiculous. It's possible.

Steve: I mean, you know what, as far as I'm concerned… And you know what, they want us to talk about it, so they won.

Chris: Yeah, and we are talking about it, so they won. But luckily, I was already a Netflix subscriber, and I'm going to remain a Netflix subscriber for other reasons.

Steve: Well, for the football game alone that's coming on Christmas Day.

Chris: Yeah, which they're going to have problems broadcasting. If you go back and read the market ticker, Carl Benneger, he talks about why. Yeah, Netflix was never set up to do that. No, they're not. And they didn't do anything to correct it before.

Steve: They're not going to go out and buy more servers just to have more people.

Chris: It's not even the servers. It's something some other technical bullshit that we're not going to talk about here. So what what we are watching? Well, we decide to we decide to take our spare time, of which we have plenty because we're old men who love spare time. And we watch these things and we pick them and we decide we do it for you, though. And we do, we do it for you. And Steve, H.J. this week is watching something, it's been around for a few years. Are there new seasons now or are you?

Steve: It started in 2019 and I think the fourth season just finished. Okay. And it was kind of, so I only watched the first season, so I'm technically not allowed to talk about anything else but the first season. But I did look it up because I wanted to see how much investment I would have to do. because I wasn't sure about it. And the fifth season looks like it's going to be picked up because they didn't like the way the fourth season ended.

Chris: Why don't we talk about what it is?

Steve: Okay. That's even better. Yeah, it's called evil. It's called evil. Just evil. That's plain evil. And it's basically about a psychologist, a woman psychologist, Kristen Bouchard. And she joins up with David Acosta. He's an African American man who's trying to become a priest with the Catholic Church. And I guess they have some problems with demons and possessions. Doesn't everybody? Yeah. I mean, the Catholic Church, that's what they're in the business of doing, you know, understanding that. So they have David and there's a third guy. I forget the other guy's name, but he's basically he's Muslim. And so it's like the three of them all kind of approach this from different ways. David is the, you know, the priestly guy. Bouchard is the psychologist and the other guy's the skeptic, essentially. He's the materialist. He sees if there's lead in the water. He sees what kind of metal they've been sucking on and stuff like that, right? Who sucks on metal? All the people who are infected with these demons. So, so, and there's a whole backstory with the Vatican and, and like conspiracy around, you know, them hiding the fact that they know that there are these 60 demons out there and you get, you get kind of wrapped up. It's, it's, it's supernatural, right? Right. So they, they do go into the supernatural, but they do it in kind of a silly way through dream, through dreams. Right. So you can't tell sometimes if they're dreaming or if they're not dreaming, it's that, it's that kind of, tug, that push and that pull of, well, were they dreaming about it? Did that really happen to them? Are they seeing things? Are they possessed? All of that gets wrapped up into, into the cases that they see with all these demons. And they do a pretty, I'm, I'm actually pretty impressed how they like bring it like into like people who have, who do mass shootings. For example, they had an episode on a shooter and how, this one guy who's also a psychologist, you can't tell if he's like a demon, or if he's a psychologist, or if he's just toying with them.

Chris: I actually think most psychologists are demons, but that's a whole other story.

Steve: It's very possible. So it's very good. It's very complicated. It's very cerebral. The supernatural stuff isn't that scary, I don't think. Right. Because they make it kind of kitschy.

Chris: Well, I think originally it was on CBS. Right. They couldn't really push the envelope as far as the censors were concerned.

Steve: I think. Well, yes, because like in they did use the F word once, which I was surprised. Huh. And I bet you it was bleeped out on the original. Yeah, maybe. And then when they put it on Netflix, which is where I'm watching it now, Paramount Plus is what you said. Uh, no, it's so paramount. So here's the thing. Paramount plus picked up the fifth season because that is CBS. Okay. Gotcha. CBS had it for the first four seasons and they said, we're done with it. But, but everybody's like, no, you can't be done with it there. There there's this, you have to resolve this. Gotcha. So they said, okay, yeah, enough people are watching it. So fifth season will be the last one, but it will be on Paramount plus, but that's not out yet. All right, well, I get I like it. I mean, if you like the supernatural, which I do, you're into that the cerebral stuff. It's not too religious. It's not too religious, but there is some religious overtones. Well, there has to be when you're talking about demons, but they bring in like she used to be a climber and they bring in some some Buddha, Buddha, Buddha stuff. So it's just pretty interesting. They bring in Buddha. Well, her husband was over in Tibet. So he brings some of it back with him. And then you're like, Oh, well, is that the same as the demons in and Catholicism, and they don't ever resolve it, really.

Chris: My question is, is it Tibet or Tibet? Tibet. There you go. That's the answer, and you come. We didn't do a stump the answer. I should have done a stump the answer.

Steve: You should have said, how do you say T-I-B-E-T? It would have been Tibet.

Chris: Donner and Tibet. Well, like Detroit, yeah. Detroit, La Trobe. All right. You're catching on.

Steve: You're catching on. You'll be one someday.

Chris: Believe me. What I could say. All right. I am, um, continuing to watch something since, and I have to give an excuse here because my job and everything, I can't watch as much. So I'm, when I get on a show, I have to watch it till the end. And today I just finished season three of fear of the walking dead on Netflix because I finished the whole walking dead 11 seasons. This one has eight. Let me tell you something about fear the walking dead. This is my opinion. I don't know if anybody's going to agree with me or not.

Steve: I stopped somewhere around season five.

Chris: I think I can tell you right now seasons one through three. Yeah. Better than. all of the walking dead.

Steve: Very good. Isn't it? Yeah. That's the yacht one, right? They're on the yacht. Yes. And then they make it season one. Yeah.

Chris: And then they make it someplace into the yacht, tries to get them to Mexico. Shit hits the fan. They find a ranch. Shit hits the fan. They find a dam. Shit hits the fan. And then next thing you know, the beginning of season four, there's a cowboy and Morgan from

Steve: Oh, Cowboy. Yeah, right.

Chris: Yeah. But that episode was a season four. So, so as far as my review, review is concerned, it starts to go downhill from here, by the way. Sorry. I, and I, and I've, I did watch it through like season five or six, same thing happened. Won't go over it. uh, with, with everybody that happened to the walking dead. I just kind of lost interest. I didn't think it was bad, bad, but yeah, it does start to get again, walking dead ish. But I'll tell you what, seasons one, two and three of fear of the walking dead. Some of the best television I've seen.

Steve: Yeah. With the kids and everything.

Chris: Absolutely. Yeah. I thought that was really well, yeah. With his addiction and how it plays into the whole, it's like he is perfectly suited for the apocalypse, which is true of a lot of addicts because they live in the good, go down to, to, to, to Kensington in Philly. Yeah. That's the walking dead. It really is. Unfortunately, in some ways, unfortunately, very true. Go to the streets of San Francisco. It's the walking dead, you know, hate Ashberry that, you know, this is, these are cities my children live in. I know. Well, that's your fault. Not So, season three of The Walking Dead.

Steve: I bet I could go down to Pittsburgh and find some places.

Chris: I've been down there recently. There are some sections and it's actually getting worse, unfortunately. But that's another show that we'll do another time. So, yes, Fear of The Walking Dead. Season three. Listen, guys, pick it up. It is fantastic. If you like The Walking Dead and you didn't watch Fear, you're totally missing out. You are totally missing out, which is what the Grand Schwabini is doing right now. I think we're missing him. I don't see it that way at all. I really don't. We miss you more. Come back, please. No, please. Stay away a little longer. You got a little bit more to go on that stick you're smoking there. He does. A lot of way to go. He's got a lot of tugging to do. Do you think he finished that? I don't think he finished that. No, he never finishes a cigar in that way. He says that bragging like, I only smoke in Jamaica. He probably put it out right after that threw up. All right, you've been watching the Sports Force Black and Gold Edition all over the world, live on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, X and the Gram. And I'm going to drop the podcast right after the show on the iHeartRadio Apple Podcast, Spotify or anywhere you get your friggin podcast. And you can always listen to us on Radio PGH on the stream I put in the comments right now before we leave. I am your technical director for H.J. I am out. Here we go. Gibbons. Jabba.