The Steelers On A Bye - The Penguins Struggle

Chris: We're having a good time on the sports porch tonight. Yes, it is the sports porch, black and gold. Here we are live. If you're watching live all over the world on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube X and the Graham joins us again tonight. Welcome to Instagram. All of our fans there. And of course, as you can see in the ticker, if you're watching live, I am going to drop the podcast right after the show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, Spotify. Or anywhere you get your friggin podcasts and one more thing You can always listen to us live. You can just stream us live on radio pgh. I always put the link to the radio stream Down in the comments right there right now save it listen in anytime To my right in the studio is the grand schwa beanie Across from me is Hockey Jesus, and I am your technical director. Welcome back to the porch, guys. You were absent last week, right? Was it you?

Steve: Yeah. Yeah, it was you. I planned my time off around the bye week. That's right. That's right. You know, good move. I was away last weekend. Yes. Did I tell you where I went? Hershey. Yeah, I went to Hershey Park. I heard you surprised your wife. So, yeah, I had this great weekend planned. You guys are going to love this. I surprised her. My wife plans everything in our family, all our trips. She does it all. And when she plans it, she gets it down to the minute. So I'm like, of course, I'm I'm going to plan this trip. So I plan this trip. We were going to go to a concert on Friday night. So we had to get there a little early. When we got there and arrived, she was going to have a spa treatment. So she goes to her spa treatment. I'm hanging out. I'm hanging out on the porch, just checking. I was like, you know, I better make sure I got these these tickets for this concert. I pull them up. There they are. And I look at the date. I had the wrong date. No way. The concert is actually this coming Friday. So are we going back?

Marc: Are you going back?

Steve: No, I'm not going back. I sold them. I sold them. Was it Sarah McLachlan? Close. You guys are going to love the band that I was going to see. Air Supply.

Marc: Oh, yeah.

Steve: Yeah. Yeah. I'm all out of love. I'm so lost without you.

Marc: Is that a Susan favorite?

Steve: No, no. That was that was mine. She got the spa. I got I got the I got the concert. So there was no air supply concert, but everything else was all in love.

Marc: How disappointed was she knowing that she wasn't going to be able to see air supply?

Steve: She was very much not disappointed. She appreciates a good air so she even said like is it really air supply? I was like, yeah It's the two people who are in an air supply are still alive and supposedly they're still pretty good in concert But I don't you know what the thing is we couldn't even go see them because I thought you know Maybe they were just like down the road in Philly or something like that We could just we could just go find where they are because I'm sure I could get tickets for it They were in the Philippines Well, so that wasn't an option either.

Chris: So OC on the Instagram is already trying to get us into sports. Penguins having a dead night. One band I never got was a grateful dad. All their music sounds the same. It's a good thing. The counselor's not.

Marc: Yeah, that's my feelings. Exactly. Really? Yeah.

Steve: Yeah. You don't want to shaking it up on shakedown street.

Marc: There's a lot of people out to feel the same thing.

Steve: You don't feel a touch of gray. No.

Marc: Now, all I can say is, if I want to fit in with Deadheads, this is what I say. Terrapin Station, Ramblin' Rose, the sky was so blue. Very good.

Chris: You fit right in. That's it.

Steve: Then you could start like a half an hour conversation about those things. Give me some grilled cheese.

Chris: My favorite Dead song was Sugar Magnolia, but other than that, I could really, you know,

Marc: I like Friend of the Devil. Friend of the Devil is a good one.

Chris: Amy May says, now we know why Susan plans all the trips. Yes, that's true.

Steve: But I'm going to try it again. I'm going to get her until I get it right, Amy. I'm going to try it again. Yeah, but the air supply thing was all about you. Yeah, I mean, I love air supply. I'm not I'm not afraid to say that out loud.

Marc: I'm all about me. I don't know any songs beyond that one. I'm not about Susan.

Steve: Yeah, I recognize. Yeah, you would know all the air supply songs. Get her a spa. You know, when you were like in seventh grade and you wanted to put your hands around a girl, you know, just put on some air supply. That was the idea.

Chris: I'm all about me.

Marc: Air supply was never a go to for me.

Chris: I don't care about Susan.

Marc: I got her the spa and I love her forever.

Chris: And I still got the date so wrong.

Steve: I did get the date so wrong. All right.

Chris: OK, listen, guys, what are we doing the sports sports? Well, of course, we talk all things black and gold. And yes, the Steelers were off. They were in a buy or as Steve likes to say, an off week this week. Everybody knows that. So I kind of feel like because last week's show we start we ended as at the start of the Monday night game. Right. I kind of feel like all of the analysis was done all week. I mean, listen to sports radio. It's like, you know, Russell, this nausea, that this that everything else. But this is kind of our chance to to digest the week. Think about what we've seen, think about where they are, and then talk about next week where they're going. So we're going to talk a little bit about the Steelers, then we're going to do our NFL predictions, then we're going to do Stump the Yinzer. We don't have a Trader Joe's snack time tonight because my wife, my lovely wife, Lauren Klein, the Pittsburgh property diva, who I have to give, I absolutely have to give props. There she is. Thank you. There she is. Thank you, Pittsburgh Property Diva. A little yin and yang. PittsburghPropertyDiva.com. Yes, she provided us the pizza that you've seen me so rudely eating in the background. And we're going to do a little what we're watching. And let's just start off with the Steelers right now. So the Steelers beat the Giants. Uh, I, I predicted the giants score, right? I said they were going to win 21 to 18. I thought it was going to be a little closer, but I didn't feel like the giants are going to score a lot of points. We all predicted a victory, which was good. So after a week of kind of letting Russell Wilson second game sink in, why don't we do a little good, bad and ugly? for that and we'll let you, since you were out last week, we'll let you, were you out last week? I was. Counselor filled in for me. Right. And he made your picks. Yeah, that's right. Probably why I went 0-3, but that's okay. Well, you know, you didn't go 0-3, but you didn't do well. So let's hear what you have to say. Let's do the good from the game.

Steve: Well, they won the game. That's the most important thing about playing a team like the Giants. You can only hope to win the game. To me, I thought the good was, I thought their red zone offense was much better. I know that they didn't score those touchdowns because they were called back, but I like the play calling. I like the way they were thinking about getting into the end zone. And for me, that was the good. The red zone offense was much more improved over the previous weeks.

Chris: Right. How about you, Schwaber? Good.

Marc: Good. I mean, I just think the good is that the offense continued to look sharp. I like that Russell Wilson is able to get players involved that had not been involved as much with Justin Fields, especially Van Jefferson and CA3. Well, actually, I have to tell you, I mean, I used to joke about CA3. I think CA3 is actually emerging. And to be quite honest, you know, obviously, you know, they say the Steelers won a wide receiver. Apparently they were close to Christian Kirk and then he breaks his collarbone. So now they're thinking maybe You know, maybe an Adam Thielen or Darius Slayton. To be honest, I don't know that they need one. You know, maybe with Russell Wilson, CA3 can emerge. And Van Jefferson can be a serviceable third receiver, even though he plays the second receiver. But I don't know that they need one necessarily.

Steve: I think you just do it for depth reasons.

Marc: Yeah, for depth reasons, sure. Doesn't hurt. Yeah, doesn't hurt. So, uh, but, but offense looking sharp, getting others involved. Very good.

Chris: So a couple of comments I want to get in real quick before we get to my good. The defense needs to stop the run, Anne-Marie says. Anne-Marie's right about that. Yeah, Tracy did shred them until he got hurt. John on YouTube, thanks for being here, buddy. It's 3 a.m. and the bar is closing. What wide receivers left to take home? Yeah, he's not wrong. Yeah, he's not wrong. So the good for me was pretty much the same. But I want to boil it down to one thing to make it simple, because this game is now ancient history. Yeah. The good for me was Russell Wilson. Yes, he had that fumble near the end of the game. And it didn't hurt him. And it ended up not hurting him. But you just look at the way he plays. And it's obvious. He's a professional quarterback. He knows how to command the field. He knows how to play in the pocket. He knows how to play out of the pocket. And he knows for the most part, he knows when to make decisions. And when you have that person back there, a guy like CA3, who is a speedy, but undersized receiver, He's gonna, Russell Wilson is gonna find that window where he's open, where a Justin Fields, and I can't say right now that a Justin Fields hasn't learned that yet. Or the game hasn't slowed down for him yet because you would think after basically three years as a starter, the game would start to slow down for you. Right. So this isn't a fields bashing session because everybody knew I said stick with fields because they were winning. And I admitted last week that I was wrong. but I did always want Russell to start if he was healthy. Um, so the good is that they have a quarterback now and Tomlin doesn't have to sit around and try to make a decision because he is horrible at quarterback decisions because he never had to make one when he had Ben Roethlisberger. So that was the good, the good was basically Russell Wilson, uh, H J the bad.

Steve: I guess you do have to go with their inability to stop the run. And I guess I'll put that mostly on Patrick Queen. He's not been the stud that we thought he was going to be. In fact, I'm not calling him a dud yet, but he definitely doesn't have the ability to jump up into the hole when he needs to to make that stop right at the line. I think his covering's been okay. It's not been great. So I'm gonna go with, The bad would be linebacker play from Patrick Queen, inability to stop the run.

Marc: Yeah, I mean for me the bad, I can't really add much to that. So the only thing I'll say to make it a little bit different is just, I mean the Giants are a pretty bad team. The win is really all that's important. Would have been nice to maybe have it more of a blowout. But other than that, I mean, I guess the negative for me, I'm saying is they sort of kept the they kept the Giants in the game with, you know, some spotty run defense.

Chris: Yeah, that's the bad for me. The bad for me is run defense all the way. I worry about that. Yeah, we're going to talk about worrying about that next week, especially John says Red Zone scores with Wilson bad. So, uh, yeah, they need to score more touchdowns in the red zone, but that's something that I think is, is coming. I think that this is a different situation in that with fields, you had to have a very, very elementary version of the offense. And then at times, like in the indie game in the second half, you open it up cause you got to come back. I think with Wilson, it was more like, let's get you out there. Let's get you in the rhythm of the game. You can call the plays if you, you know, you can check it down, you can check the play next game. Now we're starting to throw to, we're starting to get all the other receivers involved. I think the red zone is going to change coming up because you do have Friar Mooth still, Washington is now being, you know, utilized a little bit more. Absolutely. So ugly, Steve, anything ugly about the game?

Steve: Yeah, I mean, their inability to get to get into the end zone and actually put six points up on the scoreboard. Yeah, they got into the end zone plenty of time. They did. They always got pulled off, whether it was a penalty, whether it was, you know, one, two, two of the same foot doesn't equal two feet. Yeah, that was weird. By the way, one foot and one ankle on the same foot equals two feet. Just so just so we're clear on how the one foot thing works. Right. And I'm sure everybody has seen this over the past week where somebody did a spoof video of a guy catching the ball and jumping around the whole field with one foot. literally all over the whole field, and then he would get pushed out at the end, and then it'd be like, no catch. So that's the absurdity of that role. They really, I think, need to fix that. I think that's dumb. But anyway, that would be the ugly for me. The ugly is definitely their inability to get the ball into the end zone and score six points.

Marc: I guess I'll give the ugly game ball to Broderick Jones for that pretty horrific face mask, which nullified the… Yeah, that was one of them. I mean, like, you barely see that, like, you know, an offensive lineman face masking somebody.

Steve: Yeah, I mean, he put his hand out and literally grabbed his face mask. Yeah.

Chris: Yeah. He's got to, he's got to, he's got to rein it in here. Yeah. I would give that as… ugly, um, as far as a certain play, I, I would actually take my previous comment of bad and that rushing defense as the ugly. Um, because you don't, you're not expecting the giants to light you up in the secondary, right? So what are you doing? Letting this kid now he's fast and he's shifty and their line is, average at best. So that that worries me. And that's been kind of an Achilles heel of their line for the last couple of years, is that if that running they can they're great rushing the quarterback.

Steve: So well, the problem is, is Liao still out? He's still on IR. So they got louder milk is the defensive tackle behind Hayward. When Hayward's in, he's fine. Yes, that's and they have no backup for Keanu Benton. He literally has to play every snap. Yeah. And that's the problem. Yeah. They just don't have enough depth there. I wouldn't mind them actually going out. Well, I guess they're assuming that Leal is going to be healthy. That's why they're not making a play to go get a defensive lineman, because they actually need some more depth there. Yeah. And that's, that's the only thing that's really stopping their inability to stop the run. I think everybody gets healthy. I think that shores itself up.

Chris: Yeah. M. Ann Marie on Facebook says, thank God for Boz and the special teams.

Steve: I mean, the special teams have been incredible the past three weeks.

Chris: I mean, you know, John says the team's attitude with Wilson is good. That's a nice surprise. And you know what? We didn't talk about that. I think the really the good is overall this year is the special teams. If you're looking throughout the year from the game now, I mean, Danny Smith has got those guys playing motivated. They're aggressive. They're not afraid to get after the ball. And that run back by CA3 was just that was a joy to see that happen.

Steve: So well, they actually practiced their special teams. Many teams don't.

Chris: Yeah, that's true. that puzzles me. Doesn't that puzzle you that a lot of teams, well, I don't think they don't practice. They just get, they give it a walk through and that's it. Yeah. It just puzzles me because games in the NFL are won and lost on mistakes. And when you're punting and covering a kick, I mean, it's every man for himself out there. You've got your lanes you're supposed to run in, but man, you can end up on the other side of the field and you had no idea how you got there.

Steve: Yeah, well, they knew that they could block that field goal a couple weeks ago, and they actually knew that that was going to happen. They didn't realize they'd get called for leveraging penalty on it. you know that's good i think that's that's very that's that's something that hopefully will allow them to continue to this winning streak yeah i i i think it will speak in winning streaks let's move to next week thoughts on facing jayden daniels and the

Chris: Commanders of course that is in Washington Corliss Waitman might be back next year. He is kicking ass as well He's talking about the punter. So yeah Alright, so you have a you have a Washington team that is surprising this year and for those people who were big Jaden Daniels fans I am. I love it. Well, the Grand Schwabini said before the season he was going to surprise everybody.

Steve: I think I called him my rookie offensive player of the year. You might have.

Chris: Yep. Yep. I had absolutely no opinion because I have no opinion on the commander still. And we won't go back there. But I'm not asking you to have one. I understand. But how do you how do you feel about how they're going to play against this team? I mean, they it's it's it's hard. They have a good offensive line. Um, Terry McLaurin is, uh, an above average receiver, maybe close to one of the better receivers in the game, top 10, maybe top 10. Yeah. I wouldn't necessarily put him 10, but if he's not 10, he's 11. Right. And their defense is playing better than it should. They do have Dante Fowler, Jr. Bobby Wagner, which is experience. He's older. Um, Um, but they, they don't really have a rushing game per se. It's running back by committee with Austin Eckler, Brian Robinson jr. Now they're effective when they run. Um, but the real problem is Jaden Daniels. So how do they contain him? How do you, how do you think they're going to, how do you think they're going to work against that?

Steve: I think he's going to be a problem. I don't think they're going to they're going to probably try to put in a scheme against him. But once they realize all they have to do is run Brian Robinson, Jr., I don't think that the that the commanders are really going to have to do anything but that. I think that JP jr. Can negate McLaurin pretty easily I just don't know if the commanders have the secondary receiving core that can Then take over the game or are they gonna rely on Jean Daniels run? I think if they can't find a secondary receiver, whether it's a tight end or another receiver I think the Steelers can can easily win this game, but here's why I'm not really focused on this game. And that sounds dumb, I know, but three of the next four games are against divisional opponents. They play the Ravens at home, and then they play on the road at Cleveland and at Cincinnati. This game means shit. if we win those other three games. True. So, so this game doesn't really mean that much, honestly, because even if we lose and we beat the Ravens, then it doesn't, it doesn't really matter. We still maintain our lead in, in the division. It's hard to get up for a game like this when you know you have those other three games back to back to back like that. And I can see the Steelers getting let down because it was a trap game. I don't think it's a track. I don't think it's a trap game, but it doesn't mean that much. There are some, it's very few games in the NFL where a game doesn't mean anything, but this game doesn't really mean that much to the Steelers. It's the three after this that are their whole season.

Marc: Right. I do get the logic there. Um, but I also think, um, you know, look, the Steelers have been listening all year to people talk about how the first half of the schedule is easy and then it gets harder, right? And nobody really thought the Washington was going to be a part of that harder, but they are. And you know, the fact that you're playing a team that has a seven and two record, I think that they're going to come to play because they want to show the rest of the league that they can be a significant winning team. They could, they could be professional about it. I don't think that they're looking past this game. I don't think it's a trap game. I think it's a game where you've got two weeks to prepare for it, and you want to show the league. Especially you want to show Jaden Daniels that you know, what defense is all about in the NFL because he's played with defenses so far. Yeah, so I'm really actually very interested to see what happens in this game I think I'm more interested in to see what how Jaden Daniels response to the Steelers defense.

Steve: I Right, exactly. Because I think if he can, they'll beat us. But I think if he can't figure out their defensive schemes, if they're that difficult to figure out, then I think he could be in trouble, you know.

Chris: John says this is the week to change up the D and blitz to see if the kid can handle real heat. You know, I don't think they should change a whole lot because they bring pressure naturally. He also says that the games matter with playoff positioning. The Washington game could make the difference between a home game or games away play. Yeah, we get it, but I understand.

Steve: Not really, John, because if you win those three divisional games after this, you're going to be you're going to win the division. I think it won't matter if you lost to the Washington team.

Chris: Yeah, it only gets to if there's a tie and then a common opponent or something like that.

Steve: So that's like it's a small fourth. That's like the fourth tiebreaker.

Marc: Yeah, well, but it does matter beyond the first playoff game. I know we're just hoping to win one now. The Steelers just want to get into the playoff. It does matter beyond that game.

Steve: But it might matter if you're talking about getting a bye during the first week and not getting a bye during the first week.

Chris: So that would be about it. So I think I think the issue and this is what if you're a Washington fan, if you're if you're rooting for the commanders, what you're what you're looking for is when the Steelers bring the heat because they're going to bring the heat. Highsmith and Watt can't help themselves.

Steve: It's what they do. They're not going to blitz to get there, but they're going to come from the edge and come and get you.

Chris: That's right. This is where the linebacking core comes into play because this is where you're gonna want to see Jaden Daniels use that gap between the linebackers and the secondary to throw over the middle of the field as a check down if he's able to do that and They can get yards and chunks because that's so far believe it or not the linebackers this year in my opinion have been the weakness on the Steelers defense still I agree with you other than the last game where, and of course we talked about the line has some injuries, so the rushing on them. But I, I think if the, if you're the commanders, you're actually inviting that heat because you're playing it not up over the top, you're playing it over that first line of defenders and you're, you know, and Terry McLaurin is very good at finding that zone and sitting down in that zone and getting yards after the cat. Yeah.

Steve: But there's not going to, they're not going to play a zone against McLaurin.

Chris: No, I don't think so.

Steve: is going to be there. And don't forget that Cam Sutton's coming back this week, too.

Chris: Very true. Now, I'm not I'm not predicting that I think the Steelers are going to lose this game. I'm just saying that if that's if they're going to get beat, they're going to get beat by rushing up the middle. And they're also going to get beat over the middle on those checkdowns or those short yardage passes, because I don't think the Redskins are going to or the commanders are going to be able to go deep on them.

Steve: Yeah, I think the commanders are going to have to make, uh, they're going to have to want to run the ball. I don't know that I haven't watched very many of their games to know if they have, uh, they want to run the ball. Like it doesn't seem like that's something they want to do.

Chris: Well, it's more of they, they want to, it's not that it's not a run first offense. But it is a running back by committee. So if you look at the stats for their running backs, they're always close to 100 yards. You take the annuals and they're over 100 yards. So it's kind of similar to, I was looking at some other team, I don't remember, but it doesn't matter. So Seattle does that a lot. Yes. Charbonneau and K.W. three. Yeah. Yeah. And the Eagles did that a lot before before they had Saquon Barkley now run like 16 miles every game. Right. Couple games. So he should. And he should. Absolutely. So I definitely think that this game is going to end up being a challenge because it is in Washington. Camel need easing in because he hasn't seen game speed for a while. Yeah of course. No doubt about that John. I actually think this is a trap game. And I know you're talking about them getting up for the game, but I think what Steve is saying is very true. You know, it's really hard not to look at the next three games and go, well, the Ravens just got beat by a crappy team. They just got beat by Cleveland. Oh, we can definitely beat them. a division game.

Steve: They always play them tough and they usually split Baltimore came out and just trounced Denver this.

Chris: Yeah, of course. Well, that was their rebound game. That was their rebound game. And then you've got the Browns and we all know the Browns. It's a hassle though. I mean, they're a hassle. Yeah. Okay.

Steve: They, they, they can play in Cleveland on Thursday night. That's tough.

Chris: Yeah. And then at the bangles and you're right, right now at this part of the season, those were supposed to be, and still are the most three most important games.

Steve: So, uh, well, the other thing too, is the commanders are playing the Eagles after this too. So that I'm not, I'm not, uh, they may be looking past this game a little bit also.

Chris: Uh, so, uh, yo son comes in with, uh, he's taking a dig at the grand Schwab beanie here, beanie Bishop third interception. So,

Marc: Well, actually, it's interesting you say that because, you know, this stuff just comes to me. It turns out last week there was some interference. There's some interference and I got the wrong information. I want to apologize to my followers because that was a mistake. The information was incorrect.

Chris: At least you can own it. Somebody was being a fake spirit.

Steve: Maybe, maybe, maybe Mark needs rabbit ears, so he can dial it in a little bit better.

Chris: I love how he's, I love how he's blaming somebody and a fake spirit. Yeah, it was a fake spirit.

Steve: Well, you know what? It was pretty close to Halloween, so there could have been some extra spirits in the room.

Chris: It was a fake spirit. A little more activity going on, I understand. So, anybody want to predict? Anybody want to make a quick prediction?

Steve: I'm going to predict the Steelers win 17-10.

Marc: Hmm. It's a tough one. Uh, I'm going to say the Steelers win 23 to 20. Uh, I hate doing this boys. Uh,

Steve: Here it comes. The old trap.

Chris: The old trappers back and back in. I think the commanders are going to win. I think it's going to be a low scoring game. I think they're going to win 19-17. 19-17. How about 18-12 in a field goal battle?

Steve: I think it's going to be 3-2. Ooh, 3-2. You're thinking they're going to get to 17 and then get a safety?

Chris: Yes. Nice. So, John says on YouTube, says the Bengals know they aren't out of it yet. My buddy Jeff. They aren't out of it. My buddy Jeff from York who now lives in Hagerstown and is opening a great barbecue joint. So, we might have to take a little road trip down there and eat some of his barbecue. Hagerstown. Hagerstown. I think it's Hagerstown. If I got that wrong, Jeff, I'm sorry. We had a phone conversation and I was half awake. Good evening, everyone, says Jeff. Mike Lawrence is back. Hey Mike, what's up? Not to criticize Russ for his longer throws, but I wish the Steelers would throw more to the middle of the field. I think we all do, and I think it's coming. Yeah, it's true, Mike. Okay, okay, them Trader Joe bird nests got you.

Marc: Oh, awesome. By the way, I had Amy go out and buy three. Had some bird nests for lunch today.

Steve: There you go. You gotta get that bird nest in you.

Chris: Yep, Trader Joe's, and M. Marie says, did you have tinfoil in your hat for that? I did, I did.

Marc: M. and Marie.

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Steve: Steve who the counselor before the counselor was one and two wanted to the Grand Schwab he take he took the Packers over the Detroit he took he took the Texans.

Chris: I never would have picked that He took the Texans the Vikings and the Packers who did Texans play? The Jets. Yeah, I mean I would have taken that and Chris the technical director was three and Oh, baby I took the Jets, the Vikings, and the Lions.

Marc: Well played. Closing in. I am making some headway, baby. If you go two and one this week, you get to 500. There you go.

Chris: That's right. Let's go.

Marc: Meanwhile, I'm 10 games over 500.

Steve: Marcus. You know what's great about that? Like, I'm 13 and 10, but I have one less fewer games than you. Yeah. How is that? I probably should be 14 and 10, but you know, whatever.

Chris: You make it up. Just make it up as you go. You're 13 and 11. Yeah. Right. Now I'm 13 and 11. Isn't it funny how that works like that?

Steve: You say you're 14 and 10. No, you're 13 and 11.

Chris: Yeah, you're 13 and you're 13.

Steve: There's some fuzzy math going over.

Chris: See how that magically happens right there. All of a sudden, you're 13 and 11. Just like that, I'm 13 and 11. Yeah, because you were 1 and 2. All right.

Steve: Anyway, anyway. I know 2 plus 9 is 6. Carry the 4. Oh, damn it. All right.

Chris: What are we trying to do here? I can't remember. Oh, yeah. We're making predictions. OK. So our predictions, every week we do the Thursday night game, the Sunday night game, and then a Sunday pick them game. This week, we are doing Thursday night, Bangles at the Ravens. If you want to get in on the action, drop a comment on who your pick is. Thursday night, Bangles at the Ravens. I won last week, so it's me. I am going to go with the Bangles.

Steve: Well, that was easy. I'm going with the Ravens.

Marc: So Bengalis or Ravenous. I will go.

Chris: with the birds. Mark is going with the Ravens with that. They're playing really well right now. Okay. All right. No comment so far on that. That was the Thursday night game. The Sunday night game. This is interesting. The Lions at the Texans. Oh, my God. First. Oh, I'm going with the Lions hands down. I think they're a team of destiny this year.

Steve: They're definitely not a team of destiny. Although I think I do have them going to the Super Bowl.

Chris: Well, I mean, that's partial destiny anyway.

Steve: But the problem with the Texans is they have no receivers. Right. Right. Tank Dell's not back yet. Right. He's back.

Marc: Is Nico back? Niko may be back next week.

Steve: So I this is see if I knew those two guys were playing I definitely take Houston But because they're not I can't I can't commit that they're going to be playing when go with Detroit

Marc: Yeah, I can't go against Detroit at this point.

Chris: Okay. Lions at Texans. We've got Jeff chiming in on the Ravens game, unfortunately, and he's saying the Lions next game up our Sunday pick them game. This is a great one. Everybody's going to want to pick this one. The Broncos at the Chiefs.

Steve: I still think we should have went with the two and seven bowl.

Chris: Yeah. You want to add another game? No, I do not. I mean, that's just another one for me to lose. Yo-Ho Sun says tie. Tie, so predictable. That's what we love about it. Broncos at the Chiefs. Okay, Broncos at the Chiefs. I'm saying this is a division game. The Chiefs Monday night game is getting ready to start right now. If they win this game, they'd be 8-0. If they lose it, they'd be 7-1. I think the Broncos are going to go in and beat the Chiefs. I'm taking the Broncos.

Steve: I like the Broncos, but the Chiefs are going to win.

Marc: Yeah, that's why you're in last place. Chiefs in a row. OK, fine. All right. Rookie quarterback against that defense.

Steve: Round it out. I don't think that you think the Kansas City defense is really that good.

Chris: They are good. But but I think that good. This is one of those games where I feel like that Andy Reid is going to mess it up. That's that's just my feeling.

Steve: I feel that about tonight's game against Tampa actually.

Marc: Yeah, he's got Patrick Mahomes, which is his no more mess ups Yeah, but my homes has made a lot of mess actually he has more he has more interceptions that he has touched on well Actually that that's why it's crazy That's why I actually think the defense is really good because my homes has actually been really bad this year a horrible year so far Yeah, yeah for him John.

Steve: No, they've been pretty good at running the ball though

Chris: John on YouTube saying Stroud isn't as sharp this year and Jeff Paulus, Chef Jeff, I'm calling him now, is taking the chefs.

Steve: Well, let's face it, Kansas City also has the refs on their side, too. That is true. That is very true. If he throws an interception and he's thrown too many, they'll just call it back.

Chris: Okay, we're going to stump the yinzer now. What is that guy here? What is that guys here in the sports sports black and gold on Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn X and the gram and the podcast being dropped right after the show. Stump the yinzer. Well, we have a resident yinzer sitting across from me in Hockey Jesus. He actually has pierogies in his DNA. They flow right through here. We have a non yinzer here in the Grand Schwabini. We pose a Pittsburgh related trivia question to them. If the yinzer gets it right, or if the yinzer gets it wrong and the non-yinzer gets it right, he becomes the honorary yinzer for the week. I still haven't figured out what that means. We got to give that something extra.

Steve: No, it just means he's a yinzer. He can walk around all week eating pierogies.

Chris: He already does that. I mean, I'm just talking about like, he's got to wear a hat.

Steve: Now, you know, you're trying to get into a gimmick.

Chris: Yeah. OK. All right.

Marc: Every week, every week. Stop it with the gimmicks already. Yeah.

Chris: The real show. All right. Let's get to stop the answer. In 1995, Bill Cower was the youngest head coach to lead a team to the Super Bowl. How old was he?

Steve: Oh my God. 1995? Yes. The Neil O'Donnell year. Let's see. When did he come into the league? It was like 91. 91 or 92. I don't remember. 31. So it was probably, it was either like he was 34 or 35 years old. I'm going to go with 35 years old. Mark?

Marc: Steve, you are incorrect. Damn it. Bill Cowher was 36 years young.

Chris: We're going to push it to next week. He was 38. 38.

Steve: I was so close, but you would win in the Price is Right rules.

Marc: I was actually going to say 37.

Steve: I was going to go 36, but I was thinking too young.

Chris: I want a gimmick and you guys want the Price is Right rules. I mean, what's the difference?

Steve: The Price is Right is a real game show.

Marc: Price is Right is a standard.

Steve: A gimmick is, oh, wear a hat and look like a yin-yang.

Chris: Put on a beard. You see what I got to put up with? All right, moving on, man, you can follow this gentleman right across from me, the hockey Jesus on YouTube at the sports sports podcast. After every single Penguins hockey game, he gets on and gives his analysis at his home studio in Greenfield in the heart of the city of Pittsburgh. Hockey Jesus has a lot to say this year about the Penguins who are not performing that well. So H.J., take it away. What the hell is going on?

Steve: That's, you know, it's predictable. It's called the, the, the Klein of, you know, an era.

Chris: And what, wait a minute, did he say the Klein of an era? I didn't hear the D part.

Steve: I thought we were, you know, D, you know, when you, when, when something was up here for so long, eventually it has to come back down. Yeah.

Marc: Decrease. It's like, yeah.

Chris: Less. But can you see, given our past history, how I would assume that you would associate my name with the decline decline?

Steve: Well, yeah, I mean, I think there's definitely synonyms right there. Yeah, decline, decline and a decline.

Marc: I know some people who've been declined.

Chris: All right, get on. I think we're two of them right now. Please get on with it.

Steve: No, that's the problem. I mean, the penguins have played at such a high level for so long. It was only a matter of time before things really started to fall apart. I kind of went over this in my latest one where they're not as bad as people think they are. Like when they lost to Minnesota and when, you know, Fleury was in town and I get all of the whole, Oh, every you know, Sid scores is 600 1600 points. Malkin gets his 500th goal flurries in for the last time. I was actually listening to a podcast today with Elliot Friedman. By the way, he's really bright. hockey, just Phenom, he knows a lot about hockey. They were actually talking about the Minnesota-Pittsburgh game just because they were like, how did that make you feel, to see the other team's goalie get so much accolade during the game, before the game, and after the game? And I was like, wow, even guys, and these guys, they're Canucks from way back, and they really like to follow hockey. They even saw it as kind of like, well, this is the end of an era. This is, this is, this is signaling the end of an era for, for Pittsburgh hockey and for Pittsburgh to come out and do it really well. And they said, you know, it was done really well, but to see it, it's just like weird because it's the opposing goalie. They're cutting the net out for him, you know, and giving him the net, you know, it's like, and I feel the same way. Like I'm, I'm kind of done with it. I'm kind of done with the nostalgia. But I get why they're doing it, because they're not very good on the ice. The only positive thing I can say in the last two games, and you have to take it with a grain of salt, because it was against Anaheim and Montreal, two teams that are not gonna make the playoffs. They did play defensively much more solidly. They won games two-one and three-one. All last year, that was my thing. They can't win a game where it's close and they don't score a lot of goals. They are seemingly able to do that right now. The next three games are huge. They play at the Islanders, at Carolina, and then at Washington. Washington's super red hot right now. They're 8-2. They lost last night because they played a playoff team. I think they played Carolina. And they haven't played a lot of really good teams. Well, you know, they played the Flyers twice, and the Flyers are not good. But Pittsburgh played against Montreal twice, and they're not really that good. So my point is, Sidney Crosby playing with Gino has made a difference. That's good. Rust has been hurt. That's not good. They got the goalie problems with Jari. He's down in the minors right now. They said he's going to be back next week. In fact, the game that I'm going to next Monday, he's targeted to be starting at that game.

Chris: So this is, this is the question for Mike Lawrence, H.J. What's up with the Penns goalie situation? Are they getting someone at the net during power plays? So you're addressing that right now.

Steve: Yeah. So, so the, the problem with the goalie, well, I mean, they got, they got the Ned who they got last year as a backup. He's kind of their starter now. Bloomquist who's been their phenom rookie. He's been good, but he hasn't won very many games and he's given up a lot of goals. But honestly, I think that next week, what you'll see happen is they'll let it play out this week. They'll play Bloomquist and they'll play they'll play Ned on these three games. And then I think when they come back home, they'll bring Jerry up and they'll send Bloomquist down. Because Bloomquist, although he's been great, he actually has the best save percentage on the team with 909 save percentage. And his goals against is only 3.46, which isn't too bad. Ned's is 2.75. And compare that against Jari, who's 5.47, but he's only played two games and he hasn't played horrible. has it hasn't hasn't played in two weeks. Right. But since he's been down in Wilkes-Barre, he's three, you know, in his safe percentages, something like 955 or something like that. And granted, it's against, you know, it's against not good talent. But honestly, I have to I kind of do have to back off from the Jari bashing I was doing earlier because the defense was just so bad. I mean, the defense is absolutely porous, and I think even Jari can get his mojo back if they can get the defense to play defense. They like to activate the defense, and the problem is when they do that, there's nobody back, and they give up two on one rushes the other way, and you're basically selling out the goalie.

Chris: Here's some props for you on the Instagram official Chris Chodai, cut and paste into our comments here because they don't show up in this package we have. He says, I've listened to all of the HGA podcasts, good stuff. I'm only a casual hockey fan, so it helps me get my mind around what's happening. So he continues to spread the word.

Steve: Yeah, spread it out, share it out. I try and tweet it out too, so if you follow me at burger man, burger with a GH burger man. Uh, that's on Twitter. Uh, I, I tweeted out after every game also, or if you're following the sports porch one on Twitter, it also makes it that there also at the sports invite your friends to church.

Marc: There you go. Yeah.

Steve: And, you know, I try and keep it pithy. I try and keep it less than 10 minutes. Sometimes I get a little excited about some things and I go off like I did on Carlson a couple weeks ago. And I'm not going to guarantee that I won't do that again.

Chris: All right. Well, we don't want any guarantees for that around here. So, Hockey Jesus, you can follow Hockey Jesus, of course, on our YouTube channel at The Sports Porch Podcast. And of course, The Sports Porch, anywhere you get your podcasts, all around the world, after every single Penguins game, he tells you like it is. He tells you like it is. He set up his own studio in Greenfield.

Steve: Oh, and I got a new microphone now, so I sound even better.

Chris: Did you get the headphone issue sorted out?

Steve: I still can't hear myself when I speak. I got to figure that out. Yeah. Sort it out.

Marc: We'll get it sorted out. I like the sign where you always have the sign.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's got it. Yeah. I'm sure it'll get edgy as time goes by. Yes. Uh, you know, I don't know how edgy it'll get. Yeah. Come on, man.

Steve: What do you want me to like put up a phallic symbol or something that you'd probably like that.

Chris: You're getting edgy already. See, there it is. There it is.

Marc: There it is. If Ned gives up like seven goals, Ned is dead.

Steve: Yeah. Or like, or like a big, I could, I could like paint a big middle finger on that.

Chris: You would like that. You could probably buy a middle finger you can place right in there.

Steve: Oh, well, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll look when I get home.

Chris: Okay. That sounds good. Okay. Moving on. What are we watching? Well, what is this? Grant Schwabini, you want to tell us what what we are watching stands for?

Marc: What it stands for is your pain, your pain of not knowing what to watch. The confusion, the jumbled mind.

Steve: I know when you click on your fire stick and you see all those icons. Right. You don't. It's like one.

Marc: How do you know what you want? Where do you go? And then you start watching trailers and then you just. Then you watch 45 minutes of trailers.

Chris: You don't watch anything.

Marc: So there's so many to choose from. We make it easier for you. That's right. We tell you what's good. We tell you what's not good. So watch one of the shows that we give a thumbs up to. Don't watch a show that we give a thumbs down to.

Chris: There you go. That was excellently coordinated guys. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little weird, but it was excellently coordinated.

Steve: Well, you know, we're of one mind around here. Yeah.

Chris: Maybe where we, maybe it's just combined. We are almost one month. I think that's really the case here. Okay. H J is watching something that I think both of us had recommended actually at one point.

Steve: So you can, you can help me identify if I'm on the right track.

Chris: We at least talked about it while we were with him. So he is watching oldie, but goodie here.

Steve: I'm watching bloodline on Netflix. That's an excellent show. I loved it. Excellent. Yeah. So I've only I just finished season one today, as a matter of fact, because, you know, I took today off because, you know, when you're away for the weekend, you want to take another extra day off. You can't just jump right back in.

Chris: We're not bad people, but we did a bad thing.

Steve: I love that. Yeah, I actually think they are bad people, by the way. But remember, I'm only at the end of season one. But I think John, you know, he's so there's John and there's Danny. Danny's like the black sheep. Right. And then there's Kevin, who basically is a drunk and doesn't really know what his life's about. Right. And Meg, who seemingly is the smartest one of them all. Yeah. But yet she has no idea what her life is about. She's the slutty little sister. She's not that slutty, I don't think.

Marc: I would not slut shame anyone.

Chris: I'm not. She's a character. She's not a real person. She's a character.

Steve: She's not a real person. First of all, I like it. I don't love it. I think it moves way too slow. I think that the characters are not likable. And I don't get the family dynamic. Like I get, I get the fact that their dad and their mom had this bungalow in Key West and they turned it into an empire somehow, but I don't see how they turned it into an empire at all. It just seems like a shack where people came and stayed for vacations.

Chris: Yeah. Well, I think that's what Key West is all about. A bunch of shacks. That speaks from experience.

Steve: I know, but everybody's like, oh, we speak so highly of the Rayburn family. And I'm like, but why? Yeah. Like I never saw anything that like was like, oh yeah, this guy gives away a lot of money. This guy, you know, has a lot of cash, you know, he brings in a lot of people. It just seems like it all seems kind of contrived at this point.

Marc: I feel like it is one that gets better season after season. Yes.

Steve: Good. Because I, I'm going to stick with it, but I have to tell you, there was probably about midway through. I'm like, wow, there are then there were 13 episodes in the first season. Yeah. And they're like an hour. They're like not short. No. And so there's a lot of time in there where you're just like, are you going to drag this out another episode? Like just get to, I know something happens with the family. Just show it to me. Yeah. Well, keep watching. They finally do, by the way. Yeah, they do. They get to it. But it is a little slow for me. I wish it was moving a little bit faster, but I am enjoying it.

Chris: OK, so you're going to you're going to stick it out for season. Yeah, season two.

Steve: I think season two is out now. Did season three just come out? No, they've been out for a while, for a while. OK, I think in season four is the last one, right? I don't remember. I think so. I think they said season four is going to be the last one. And I don't think that's out yet.

Chris: Oh, there's another season coming. I'm totally psyched. I don't think there is. No, I don't think so. I think it's just three and just three. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. So, OK, I'm in for all three of them. All right. H.J., report back to us when you're done. Season two or even if you want to wait till the very end. Grand Schwabini is watching something on Hulu. Oh, tell me lies. Was this a Rube show? No. Did Rube, no. Okay. No. Tell me lies on Hulu.

Steve: Tell me lies. Tell me sweet little lies.

Marc: This is a Hulu original. I've been watching with the lovely Amy May.

Steve: Oh, there you go. It's a family affair.

Chris: Touchdown Chiefs, by the way.

Marc: Sorry. It's two seasons and there's likely a third to come. Oh, not a touchdown. It's very, very good. I don't know. He's out.

Chris: Yeah, sorry Schwaber, we're watching the Monday Night Game behind you.

Marc: I don't know if it's for you guys. Oh, okay, and why not? Why not? Because I have a feeling it is one that is going to be probably much more enjoyed by the female.

Steve: Okay, so I'll watch it with Susan.

Marc: Yeah, you can watch with Susan. Now, I will tell you, a lot of sex.

Chris: Oh. Oh, I'm in. A lot of sex.

Steve: Well, why wouldn't we like it then? You should have started with there's a lot of sex.

Chris: I knew he was going to say that. Yeah.

Steve: I mean, they didn't look like they were very old girls.

Marc: Is this a set up here? So, OK. So, yeah, this is a good sex. Let me at least tell people what this is.

Chris: Well, I just want to know, good sex, yes or no? Right hand for good sex, left hand for not good sex. Come on. All right. He's trying to decide. I declined.

Steve: I declined. Yeah, you just got declined.

Marc: All right. So, you know, it kind of starts off that we're like, you know, present day. Basically, we're at a wedding. Right. And then everything kind of like pretty much comes back to the period of time when these two people at the wedding and all the friends that are at the wedding. are all in college together.

Steve: And they're in all this sex.

Chris: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Was there wedding sex?

Marc: Um, there's always wedding sex at one point. Okay. Good. Um, so, so, so, um, so, uh, basically something during, uh, let's say the bulk of the characters in their freshman year of college, something tragic happens. Okay. And there's a lot of different people that play some crazy, even Amy says that there's a lot of different people that, that there's a lot of different people that play some sort of role in the tragedy.

Steve: Wow, so it just didn't happen to one person, or there were a lot of people that were involved in the one person's tragedy? Correct.

Marc: A lot of people were involved in the one person's tragedy, and because of that, there were a lot of lies that were told about what people were doing at said time of tragedy.

Chris: One season so far? Two seasons. Two seasons.

Marc: And then over? Two seasons? No, it looks like there's going to be a third.

Chris: Okay. Serious question now, aside from the sex, which I think was the serious, most serious question.

Steve: Yeah. Crazy amount of sex, according to Amy.

Chris: I'm definitely watching it.

Marc: We're going to start watching it. What I will tell you is this. What I will tell you is, believe it or not, because this is, you know, look, this is a relationships, you know, program, right? Right. But I will tell you what, like, you know, how like when you see like a thriller and you're like on the edge of your seat, this is like the same but different in that you are so tense through a lot of through a lot of the episodes, you're just like, Oh, I'm like, what's going to happen? Oh, Susan can't watch that. And like, um, it's just, what is it? But, but, but it's, it's kind of like, like, let me put it to you this way. Like in, in season two, um, Amy and I just like, we're trying not, we're trying not to do spoilers, but like we both saw like, you know, people said, Oh my God, tell me lies. Season two, the finale is going to blow your mind. Oh, right. And our mind was blown.

Steve: Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Twice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's good. I like that.

Chris: It's like intense. That to me, that signals good sex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but the real question I had was, is it reminiscent of big little lies on Apple TV plus when Nicole Kidman in that group, there was an event that happened and they all told a lot of lies around it and it was, you know,

Marc: Just different though, because it's, it's, it's about a bunch of college kids. Yeah.

Chris: And there was not a lot of sex in that.

Steve: Yeah. More importantly, do they play the Fleetwood Mac song?

Marc: Yeah. There could be a Fleetwood Mac song.

Steve: No, no. The Tell Me Lies song. Tell Me Lies, Tell Me Sweet Little Lies. You know it. I will say that. You're singing it in your head right now. I am.

Chris: If I could have a moment.

Marc: Tomorrow. Yeah. I will tell you this though. The music is really, really good. Okay. Okay. And I've like, I've multiple times I've gone on, um, you know, and looked up like tell me lies soundtrack and I've bought a couple songs.

Chris: Oh wow.

Marc: Yeah. So it's really good. It's a revenue generator. It's really good music. Oh yeah. It's like, I mean they haven't officially said season three yet, but like it's been in like the Hulu, like top like three for like, I don't know, like 17 weeks or yeah.

Chris: Okay. So it's really good. So tell me lies on Hulu Schwaber recommends it. I just realized I don't have Hulu. Yeah, neither do I, but find it. But the thing about it is I like how he started off with you guys probably aren't going to like it to then like this rousing, like great show. You should watch it.

Marc: It was, I mean, it was the kind of thing where it's like you, you had to watch one every night and then some, and you always wanted to watch the next one, but you were also kind of like, I don't know if I can take another. Oh, I never say that. Let's go. Let's like let's go half an hour comedy just to sort of like ease and bring yourself down at the night.

Steve: I never do you ever feel that way when you watch them? When I get shows like that, I want to watch them back to back to back to back.

Chris: Yeah. Most of the time. I mean, I, yeah, I, I, yeah.

Marc: I also have the feeling of sometimes it's like, I don't want to like, like waste the show. Like I wanted to laugh.

Steve: Yeah, sure. Yeah.

Chris: That I can understand. Yeah. Yeah. Blowing through two or three episodes in a day. Sometimes you feel like you're doing that. Right. Okay, last, what we're watching for the evening is something I highly recommend. Here it comes, documentary time, boy. It's been a little while, but you guys, let me just tell you, you guys. Somebody got murdered. Here we go. Here we go. Get ready for it. I just want to tell everybody right now. I got my eyes on the screen. I want to tell everybody I take responsibility for what is about to happen. I completely accept it and I actually, I look forward to it. The Manhattan alien abduction. I can't even fucking say it right.

Steve: The Manhattan alien abduction.

Marc: There is something that I do like about this very much. Right. And that is what my thing about aliens that's always kind of been my go to is. How come it never happens to anybody in New York City? Yep. There you go. Why is it always the fat slob in the middle of the field in the middle of Nevada?

Chris: Hey, don't don't alien abductee shame. OK, let's not do that.

Marc: It's just a character.

Chris: These are real people.

Steve: This really happened in New York City.

Chris: Okay, so this is a brand new documentary on Netflix apparently in 1989 a woman was abducted from her Manhattan apartment. It was a rent-controlled area. She was literally levitated out of the apartment into the sky and into a ship. Can somebody capture this on camera? There were 20, listen, listen here. There were 23 independent witnesses who did not know each other that came forward and said they saw it.

Steve: They were like, why is she floating up in the sky like that? Yeah.

Chris: Yeah, they did. They saw it. What happened is there was an actual there was a power grid failure. That night, you can look it up that night in Manhattan, there was a power grid failure, all the power went out. And there was a police officer on the bridge. You're talking about police officers that saw it are part of these witnesses, like people that are actually credible. Did she come back? Oh yeah, well then she actually became famous and there was this world famous, well I wouldn't say world famous, but famous in the craft alien abductee researcher who grabbed her and they were starting to go back and he was famous for doing regressions with people and all this kind of stuff and it dragged on for years. Now this researcher had married a woman who… Were they the tall aliens or the skinny aliens? They were both the grey creatures with the big eyes. The greys with the big eyes.

Steve: Not green? Not green, no. No, not Martians, no. No, it's always either the greys or the others.

Marc: Is this a movie, like hour and a half, or is this like a three episode?

Chris: It was a quick three episodes. Oh, wait a minute. I can't remember. Oh, he was abducted. I must have been on the ship while I was watching this.

Marc: I was on the ship. I have to admit, I saw it. Oh, did you see it? No, no, no. You saw the alien abduction. I saw you get abducted. Oh, you saw that.

Steve: You were driving up the driveway and you saw Klein levitating above the house. You're like, there goes Klein again, getting abducted. So, end result here.

Chris: Do you believe it happened? the researcher was that he married a woman who was a producer and she did short films and she started following him around because they were married now and she would document all this stuff and she was a total skeptic but she was like he's my husband I want to document all this so she started you know videotaping this woman and all this kind of stuff and as time went by she started this is a really good documentary for this kind of stuff because you've got both sides presented uh in a very reasonable manner so she basically has come out and said like this is a hoax and here are the reasons why because this is what I witnessed. Okay. And you're left kind of looking at it and saying, okay, it looks like it was a hoax, but if it is a hoax, how did so many people see it? How did so many independent people that they could not confirm had any connection with this woman at all? and um there are certain things like how could this have happened and it be it would have had to have been one of the most elaborately planned complicated hoaxes ever but the proof that she has that it is a hoax is kind of like Yeah, but it looks like it is. So it's pretty cool. It's good. If you if you're into at all, it's interesting. Yeah. If you're into it, all this kind of stuff, it's I it might have been a 90 minute or because I watched another documentary that will come up in later shows. That was three episodes. But so I can't remember which is which, but it's good. Okay. It's really good. Check it out. There you go. Oh my God.

Steve: Did I actually hear that? We have to, we have to, we have to finish the show on that.

Marc: I feel like I gotta throw you a bone sometime. Yeah.

Steve: And there you have it. Every once in a while a bone finds a documentary.

Chris: There you go. Absolutely. Yeah. Still waiting. There it is. Finally. Finally! I didn't think you were ever going to find that button. It's hard to find the button sometimes, guys. It's not good. Yes, it's not. Okay. Don't watch Tell Me Lies, then. Yeah, good sex. Good sex, aliens. What are we talking about on this show? The Steelers, the Penguins, good sex, aliens. and a murderous family. Yeah, he doesn't get any better than that. All right. Thanks, guys, for watching the Sports Sports Black and Gold all over the world live. If you are on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, X and YouTube. And of course, I'm going to drop the podcast right after the show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you get your friggin podcasts. For the Grand Schwabini on my right, for Hockey Jesus across from me, I am your technical director. We'll see you next week. I am out. Jablonsk.