The Porch Is Live in Pittsburgh - Trubisky, Chuks and Harvin are GONZO

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Marc: Yeah. Oh, yes.

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Marc: The porch is live.com. You got it.

Chris: You got it. So football's over fellas. Let's just do this. Super Bowl picks. Super Bowl picks. Let's see. Schwaber, Steve Schwabini. Both pick the Chiefs. I picked the Niners. Schwaber had 26, 24 Chiefs and 25, 22. So let's just get this out of the way. While I try to figure out what's going on with our Instagram, you guys talk about the Super Bowl. Talk about the Super Bowl. Good game, bad game. What were your thoughts?

Marc: Three quarters of garbage and then two great quarters.

Steve: Hot garbage. Yes. Almost unwatchable garbage.

Marc: It was almost unwatchable. It was pathetic.

Steve: The only thing that was the saving grace was you're like, these are good teams. They can't play this bad for four quarters. Can they?

Marc: No. It seemed like they might, though.

Steve: It did. They really tried their best to give us their worst game, I think. Yes. Just because I couldn't tell if my homes was was certainly comfortable. I mean, he didn't look nervous. Neither quarterback looked nervous. San Francisco was actually moving the ball quite a bit. And then it was like mahom said ah screw it if I can't pass it And nobody can run the ball. Well without fumbling i'll just do it myself And that's pretty much what he did. That's pretty much what happened towards the end of the first half anyways but But it really still took them pretty much most of the third quarter to really get going it did it did and uh

Marc: You know, like I had been mentioning that, you know, I think a lot of us have chiefs fatigue. You know, we get a little tired of, you know, Pat Mahomes and his complaints, you know, that whenever somebody sneezes on him, it's a personal foul. And, you know, just gets annoying. It's like the next Brady Belichick where it's just like you can't stand it because they never seem to stop winning. But at the same time, I think we can all appreciate greatness when we see it. And it was pretty amazing. I mean, in some respects, I mean, in some, you know, you never know what's going to happen. I mean, one play can end the game either way. I think everybody really probably felt like Mahomes is gonna do it again, isn't he?

Steve: Yeah, I mean you had to feel that way just because… He's my homes. He's a two times Superbowl MVP. I mean, you, you had to figure he was going to know what to do. Honestly, that injury, the green law was, was huge because one, it didn't happen on the field. No. So it's just like, how can that happen running into onto the field? It just, that made no sense. I've never seen an injury like that. Even like during the regular season, let alone during a Superbowl. And, um, you just figure, you just figure my homes was gonna, was gonna get it done. And he, I mean, how did he do it though? Did you remember how he kind of did it? I mean, it w it was, it wasn't like one big play that said, yeah, okay. This was the, this was the play that turned it around for them.

Marc: No, it wasn't. But, you know, what it was was I think what what Andy Reid and the Chiefs do better than anybody is is adjust. You know, they obviously their game plan that they came in with was not working in the first half. Right. And they took that extra long halftime to, you know, reevaluate. It's kind of like a bye week at halftime.

Steve: by week and a half.

Marc: It really is. And so they came out with a better plan. True, Pat Mahomes came out and made a mistake right away. But outside of that, in the second half, they really moved the ball much better. And I also think You have to look at the other side of the ball too, where the 49ers just really failed to capitalize on their chances of putting the game away. I mean, they, they, they really did outplay the chiefs probably for two and a half, if not three quarters. And you know, of course, you know, a fumble around the 10 yard line hurts you, you know, when my home throws that interception open up the third quarter and they're on like the 45 yard line and they've got a punt. I mean, that's a huge stop.

Steve: Yeah, they go three and out there that that that was that was a killer.

Marc: I agree right there, right? And even even even if you just want to look at the overtime too. I mean, just, you know, having to kick a field goal from whatever it was, the six yard line or something, you know, I mean, how bizarre was it that like maybe half of the 49ers teams had no idea how that overtime was to be played out? It was a little strange. To be honest, I didn't know really so much myself.

Steve: Well, I wasn't sure. I mean, they said it's a new game. So I figured the way they were coming down with the ball that they knew if they didn't get the playoff, they did. It was no big deal. The game wasn't going to be over.

Marc: Right, right. Well, and Roma was saying that, too.

Chris: Well, but the thing is, they didn't really. I mean, we were having a Super Bowl party here. You know, we were all here watching the game. And I don't know if I missed the in-between after the regulation was over and then they explained. Well, it wasn't explained well. I was going to say, it just doesn't seem to me like it was explained well. It wasn't. But here I put this up on the ticker. Will Mahomes end up being the GOAT? I mean, there's just so much talk right now on all over, all over the media, all over the internet, got a long way to go, but they're talking about how he's pushing Tom Brady, you know, three Superbowls. Now, the one thing that stuck out to me in a lot of the statistics they've been throwing our way is that this is his sixth year in the league as a starting quarterback, his six years of starting quarterback and all six years he's gone to the AFC title. He has not missed an AFC title game. Now, Brady, he won that first one in 01, then he won back to back in 03 and 04, and he didn't go back for 10 years. And so does he have the ability? Yes, I think he does have the ability. But football, it's the ultimate team sport. So it takes a lot of moving parts. But one of the things we talked about in a previous show we did, Schwaber, and you weren't here, Steve, you were watching the show. Um, is, uh, and this was off air is the fact that, you know, is my home's really like the greatest skilled quarterback. And there's a fine line between a great skilled quarterback and a regular quarterback and a bad quarterback. But what I think the intangible is for my homes. is that um and amy says she still thinks mahomes runs weird he does run weird she made that comment last night it's like he's running in molasses but nobody can catch it that's exactly right but the intangible that he has is that he does not care at all what the stat line says he could care less the only thing he cares about is that at the end of the game, his team has the most points and he doesn't care how they have to get there.

Steve: I think that's not true.

Marc: I just think that Klein is overdoing it here. I think that all the best quarterbacks in the league feel the same way. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

Steve: No, I, I, I think the homes wants to be the star. I think he wants the ball at the end of the game and he wants to prove that he can get it done and he has. So by default, that means he wants to have all the good statistics. He wants to be in the spotlight at the end of the game and he wants to have the 12 commercials next year. Well, he's already got all of that. He wants 12 more. Okay. This is what I'm saying. A guy like him is not going to stop, but I do have a feeling once they don't get back to the AFC championship, it's going to, it's, it's, it's going to be a while just because once things are going and they're going in the right direction, it's easy to keep them going in that direction. Right. But once they stop. To get them going again. And plus he'll be what? Six years already in the league. Well, he said he'll be 29 next. He won't have the skill skills that he has now to, you know, run that 20 yards down, down, down, down, you know, down the middle. And he, let's face it. He had a scare of an injury last year. He's due for an injury. So well, yeah, it's only a matter of time before you get hurt. And I watched the quarterback, you know, so I know his routine. I know he really gets himself in good shape. And that is very important. But something's going to happen to him. And he's not going to change. It's going to he's going to have to change the way he plays in order to be the goat.

Marc: He's not eating avocados like Tom Brady. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he might be. He might be. I think he needs more avocado. Yeah.

Chris: Yeah. So, I mean, I, I thought it was a, I actually was glad it went through the time.

Steve: The answer to the question is no. He, he, will Mahomes be the GOAT? I mean, you're asking to predict the future. So I'm going to say no. I don't think he's going to win eight Super Bowls.

Marc: There. I'd say that's probably a good bet.

Steve: Yeah. And that's what he'll need in order to be the GOAT.

Marc: Now, I, I actually felt like, you know, Reid is 65. I think at best, Reed hangs in maybe five more years at best. So you gotta really think when Reed is gone and Spagnola's gone, that's when it's gonna be really interesting to see how things pan out.

Chris: Now, here, this is interesting.

Steve: I wonder how he'll do with Mike Tomlin.

Chris: Yeah, right. Mike Lawrence, thanks for being here again, Mike. Of course, drop your comments while we're doing the live show here. We'll try to get them up on the air. He says he gives Andy Reid and Spagnola a lot of credit for their success. Now, listen, This is another thing that I've been talking about. Everybody is talking about Patrick Mahomes. And, you know, Andy Reid is only one of a handful of coaches who have won three Super Bowls. And there is a lot that goes into running a team and being the head coach of a team that can go back to back. And also win three Super Bowls. So yes, you can say he was blessed with Patrick Mahomes, but he's the guy that found Patrick Mahomes. He's the guy that decided he should be the starter over Alex Smith. He's the guy that that realizes past year. that Tyree kill second year. Uh, they had to kind of patchwork the whole, uh, receiving core together. It looks like Rashid rice may end up being an above average wide receiver. We don't really know yet. Uh, of course they have Kelsey there and that chemistry, but you know, Andy Reed orchestrated this team. And even though they have the best quarterback in the NFL right now, uh, You still got to win. Your defense still has to play.

Marc: They couldn't have won without their defense this year.

Chris: And they couldn't have won without Reid as the coach or Spaggs as the coach. And I think it's time that Andy Reid really, truly gets his due. I think he is getting his due.

Marc: Yeah. I mean, he's, he's, he's certainly thought of as a top five coach all time. Right. And it, you know, he'll just climb higher in that regard. The more Super Bowls he wins, if he wins more.

Chris: Right. Right. Now, listen, guys, we have Kyle is trolling us here. So I'm going to, I'm going to give Kyle just a second here. He's, he's coming in. He said, read who is read TV 12 forever. A higher bill Belichick spelled it wrong. He heard a baby Kelsey is on the way. I think they've probably tried a few times, although that would break Steve's heart. No, it wouldn't. And Kyle Haynes, the best defense is a good offense. Finally, he said something football related. Yeah.

Marc: Way to go.

Chris: I think he's talking about the baby. I know. So we do have Instagram online with us now. Hey guys, if you're watching on Instagram, thanks for being here. Drop a comment. I don't get all my comments in the same queue, so if I don't get you in the show, I apologize. But of course we're talking Pittsburgh sports right now. We're on the Super Bowl, but let's let's move right to the Steelers because now we're in the offseason. Bring it back to the so we want. We want to bring it back to the Steelers moves. Yeah, that's right. Steelers moves today. We already know that. Mitch Trubisky is gone. Mitch is gone. That was a failed experiment. Well, and the funny thing about that is… Well, they didn't really use him. Yeah. It wasn't even really an experiment. Yeah.

Steve: It was more like, let's just spend $40 million on somebody in case our quarterback doesn't work out. So our quarterback didn't work out and we still didn't use him.

Chris: Yeah. So we got, so we got, and as Kyle says, right, Steelers need work. So lots of, we got your biscuits gone. We got chooks is gone. We got my goodness. Thank you. The punter Harvin can go find a job somewhere else.

Marc: Hopefully. Yeah. Remember when he got all jacked up thinking that there was an offsides. Anybody on special teams against jacked up Drop I'm losing control already drop a comment if you like the moves they made I don't see if there's there's really nothing to disagree with there, but the more important stuff is one the looming in my mind irritation about a ryan tannehill coming to the great city of ours and b the report of mason wanting a fresh start and not really being interested in coming back and i think that And I think that that is because the Steelers just don't really give him any respect. You know, it's they're not saying like, hey, open competition job can be yours. I think he's and if they are saying that he doesn't believe them.

Steve: Well, word on the street is he wants out. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't blame him. He should want out. I would want out in an organization that drafted him to be Ben's successor. And then immediately as Ben leaves, they draft another quarterback who's not as good as him and basically give him the reins and go and get Drew Biscay, who they've just dropped as two people above him.

Marc: But here's the thing though, at the same time though, if you are Mason, and let's say all other things being equal, Isn't Pittsburgh your best chance to start?

Steve: No, because they're going to go out and get another quarterback. You think they are? Yeah, they'll have to. Well, I mean, like, but you're thinking like a Tannehill level or somebody who will be who they'll get as a backup when when they get him, he won't be like, oh, that's Justin Fields. He's our starting quarterback now.

Marc: So you're thinking maybe like Mason might be thinking, let me go out to the Rams and be Stafford's backup. He's hurt every year. He might retire. Exactly.

Steve: Something like that. Yeah. He could go anywhere and be a good backup. But if and if the Steelers don't go get somebody, maybe he would want to think about sticking around because he'll be able to play like four or six games. Big Ken always gets hurt. So that's just the way it will work for him. So that would make sense. But I don't, I don't, I don't see that happening. I see, I see Arthur Smith wanting to go get a quarterback who knows his system, who he can help train the other quarterbacks. Now, it was interesting, they went out and got the assistant quarterbacks coach from Los Angeles, the Chargers. He must run a similar system. For him to pick him up, you know what I mean? I don't know anything about Arthur Smith's system, but it must be close because you wouldn't go out and hire somebody like that. And then that, that kid's got to learn a whole new offensive scheme. So there must be something there that I didn't pick up on yet, but I think that's something that could. Actually, help can get better, but I don't know, man. I think the quarterback position is a disaster right now for the Steelers.

Marc: Do you think there's any chance that they surprise us and they pick up a Justin Fields?

Steve: There's always a chance. I say there's a 10% chance.

Chris: Well, listen, when they talked to art Rooney too about this and he basically said they, they're, they don't, they're not going to shut the door on anything for whatever that's worth. Do you know what I mean? Like they don't always say no and they don't always say, yeah, we're going to do something, but for whatever that's worth,

Steve: I think it's a possibility that they do trade for just, I mean, they just freed up a whole ton of cats, but cap space be able to do that.

Chris: And, and if you think about it in DG's in the house, what's up DG, he's saying no more turd biscuit rumors and Smith wants to bring Tannehill with Rudolph wanting out as me bummed, uh, that, uh, Pittsburgh won't have, they, they, they won't have a true competition. Well, we don't know that yet because it's, you know, the, the off season is literally just begun in the last 24 hours. So, um, I, the problem that they have now is that they, they have to have a quarterback competition. No, well, I know I did but just let me finish. I mean from from all practical standpoints We all know that kenny pickett is is is not the answer. We I understand the loyalty issue I understand the way they do things But now, you know trubisky's gone rudolph is not officially gone yet, but he's not signed and he has indicated That he'd like to go somewhere else. I think if he was smart he would um, but you never know He doesn't have a really long resume because the Steelers screwed him over the last few years. Nobody, I don't know if anybody's really truly going to want him. I mean, you know, he may have to, you know, this may be a forced marriage. The way it was, you know, I think people are going to want him.

Marc: I mean, I don't know. I think, I think you look right now and at Mason Rudolph and I think a lot of teams are thinking he's like an A level backup. Yep. I agree. I mean, I don't disagree. Like, I think, like, I think, like, for example, if I'm the Eagles, I want Rudolph over Mariota. Okay.

Chris: So, you know, it's a good point. All right. So we're assuming that Rudolph obviously is gone. What do you have left in that room? You have Kenny Pickett. I mean you have kenny pickett. That's what they want. But but To me, it's it's impossible that you that you look at that and say The problem is how do you look at kenny pickett in his body of work? And say now who would we like to have back up kenny pickett? You look at his body of work and you go who can we bring in here? That's better Especially when you have all that money freed up now, who can we bring in here? That's better. That's not the way they look. Yeah. Yeah ridiculous That's not the way they look at it. I don't know. They could surprise us this year. That's what I'm saying.

Steve: I mean, they surprised, they surprised me mid season when they got rid of Canada. So that's why I say there's a, there is a percentage of a chance of that happening in the off season, especially now after they, they clearly are moving on from Trubisky. Right. So they have a hole to fill.

Chris: Man, that's no surprise.

Steve: The question is, will they fill it with a starting quarterback or will they just bring in somebody who's just going to be, you know, one of the three, assuming they do resign Mason Rudolph, right? If they do bring in somebody like Tannehill, then you'll say, okay, well, we have three of the same quarterback. This looks like an open competition.

Marc: Right. Tannehill would be like the same kind of thing as like Mason Rudolph. Like Pickett would get hurt. Tannehill would come in, rattle off three wins. And then it's like, can Tannehill keep playing? Right. That's what that's what it would turn out to be. Right.

Chris: DG is saying if they paid Rudolph cheap, the Steelers would be smart to give him a shot. I don't see Tannehill providing much more than Rudolph can.

Steve: Absolutely. They're going to spend ten million dollars in the quarterback position behind Ken. Yeah, which is ridiculous. And that's not enough to bring in a starting quarterback.

Marc: There's also, too, like, you know, and I have to assume that this is off the table, but I've been looking at early, like, you know, mock drafts. I mean, in the area where the Steelers are picking, I mean, there's quarterbacks who could be really good. Yeah, I mean, they're like the Oregon quarterback Bo Nix.

Steve: Yeah, you know the guy kind of coming in behind, you know, the Duster Herbert like him I saw a game and I was just like I thought his wide receivers made you think yeah Yeah, well as we get closer to draft, I saw him light up, Colorado I only saw like yeah, I only saw like three of his games partially yeah, and every game that I saw him play it was like Nah, he's he didn't he wasn't that like his arm didn't impress me his arm strength didn't impress me But the catches the guys made you know did impress me.

Marc: So all I'm saying is I saw him going in the 20s You know what? I mean?

Steve: Yeah, I got so, you know, like they could radically go quarterback, right if they do that they're basically signaling goodbye can't I'm more but or or maybe you do kind of um

Marc: you know, what, like, you know, what, like, an Eagles did with Jalen Hurts, what a, what a Seattle did with Russell Wilson. Like, you take that guy in the second or third round that you think actually is first round pick worthy, um, that you could get after maybe picking up a couple position pieces and kind of letting him kind of sit behind and, and, you know, who knows, you can bring him into camp and you might find out he's the best quarterback on the roster.

Steve: That never works. It could work. A third round. Russell Wilson. He didn't look what he's doing now.

Chris: Well, I mean, he did win a Super Bowl, which is kind of what we want.

Marc: I mean, he'll be in the Hall of Fame. Russell Wilson will. Yeah, that's a good.

Steve: I mean, Patrick Willis can be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Russell Wilson.

Chris: All right. So moving on, because there's so much more in the dead zone that we have to wait for with the draft coming up and any of the moves, you know, let's let's go here. T.J. Watt, Miles Garrett. Sound off. Now, I want to thank our friend Scott, who was at our little Super Bowl soiree last night. And he said, put this up on your show. Bruce, second round. So, um, second round, you know, look, look at what I have on the screen here. If you're not, if you're not watching, if you're catching the podcast or listening on radio PGH, you know, miles Garrett, TJ watt, Micah Parsons. Um, I have all their stats up. And when you look at the stats, it's hands down, you know, it's TJ watt. It's not even close. Yeah. And, and should he have been defensive player of the year? in my mind yes you can't look at this and think anything else yeah i mean look he 19 sacks to garrett's 14 i'm not even going to talk about parsons because nobody nobody thinks he should have won it anyway it's just this ridiculous like competition between gary 50 pressures to 37 Right, 19 tackles for a loss, four force fumble, three fumble recoveries and interception, eight pass deflections, 19 sacks, 48 tackles, solo tackles. I mean, Watt, he had a better statistical season. I mean, end of story.

Marc: Plus, I also think you can make the argument that T.J. Watt single-handedly was responsible for the Steelers winning probably three games this year.

Steve: Yeah, definitely that you know, yeah for sure early in the season. Yeah.

Marc: Yeah, so I you know Rams game where he had the interception Yeah, that's right.

Chris: I agree. Do we think do we think watch it or want it? Yes, but My other the other question I have is people just don't know the nfl. Do they know but but at the same time do you do you think that? All the hubbub about him snubbing the awards ceremony and cam hayward winning nfl, you know, walter payton man of the year and you know him do you think tj watt was actually really like so upset that he was like i'm not going or do you think maybe he had like another commitment like you know regular people do because i get all this hype you know you hear all this hype about tj watt was upset about his snub so he didn't even show up for the award show and he didn't show up and support his best friend cam what do you have known before the show Uh, no, but the point is, the point is he didn't show up and cam Hayward was winning NFL, you know, Walter Payton man. And everybody was getting upset about that. That's what I'm saying. I'm of the camp that was like, so what? Well, maybe, maybe his family had something to do.

Marc: I mean, go out to Olive garden. Right. But, but I'll, I'll say,

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Marc: The Olive Garden salad is just amazing. Their breadsticks are incredible. Yeah, their breadsticks are good too. But I think Steve actually brought up at some point during the week, I agree with his point, the whole thing is the script. You know, it's Miles Garrett wins because we have to, you know, we have to reward the Cleveland defense for being so good. I think that's ridiculous.

Steve: Historic at the beginning of the year.

Marc: Right. You know, Cam Hayward wins. Look, God bless him. I know he's doing good work, but so is everybody on every other team. Right. Yeah. You know, we got to give the Steelers something.

Steve: Yeah, right. Well, the reason the reason they gave it to him was because they wanted they wanted the script out there to say Mike Tomlin coaches good guys. Right. Right. And these guys are great community guys. And that's the script they want to write. Right. So they give him man of the year award. Right. Makes sense. Right. Like you have to think about what the NFL is. It's all about the script. And they don't maybe necessarily fix things to the script, but they have a script ready to go with this. Like when they know that Myles Garrett is going to do it, they're going to be like, he's been a great young defensive player. He's going to be good into the future. He played on an up and coming Cleveland team. And I actually think, didn't their head coach win coach of the year?

Marc: Head coach won coach of the year and Jim Schwartz won defensive coach of the year or assistant coach of the year.

Steve: Right. The only thing the only thing I think that the NFL got wrong in their script was why the hell did they give T.J. Watt AFC defensive player of the year. That makes no sense. That's like saying I won the Golden Globe for you know best. Right. Right. Right. And and then not even being on the ballot for the Oscar. Like that just that's just done like if you're gonna have a script at least let you know Maybe they were giving him often offensive AFC player of the year is kind of like a sub reward And maybe that's maybe that's why he was he wasn't there. I by the way disagree with you I think if you're an NFL player and you're up for a major award Yeah, you have to be at these things whether you like it or not, okay?

Chris: That's what I was trying to pull out of you.

Steve: It's your damn job to be there. Right. Although you should be honored to be there. You shouldn't be this punk that says, I'm used to losing. I'm used to getting screwed out of it. Like that's just sour grapes.

Marc: Did anybody think about the higher road? I agree. Did anybody think about this? The fact that he's injured and maybe he's going through a rigorous, uh, you know, recovery to get better.

Steve: Are you saying he's still concussed?

Marc: No, TJ, what? Yeah. Didn't he have, wasn't it concussed? Oh, was it a concussion? I thought it was, I thought he had legs.

Steve: I remember he went into the gym. He had a concussion the game before where he played the whole game.

Chris: Well, here's the thing about this though. I look at this and I'm like, if I'm, if I'm a player, like to your point, Steve, isn't the NFL about, you know, just let me say this isn't the NFL about winning the super bowl. I mean, isn't that like when you're, when you, you guys are, you're going to battle. Okay. These are modern day gladiators. Okay. You're going to battle the goal. The ultimate goal is to win the super bowl. Cause that's what brings the accolades. It brings the trophy. It brings the endorsements. So, you know, conceivably you make a lot more money, you know, you get everything that you want. By winning the Super Bowl and more and what I don't like about where TJ is right now is Not even not only did he not show up which I I was just kind of gaslighting you I agree He should have been there But he has made comments in the past where he has said, oh, you know, we got to win a playoff game. Hey, listen, man, if you're the defensive player of the year, if you're the best defensive player in the league, what you should be doing, in my opinion, is walking into that locker room And looking at your teammates and say, what the hell is going on? I came here to win a Super Bowl. You see what I do out there on the field? You got to back me up on this. I can't win this Super Bowl alone. This is where we need to be. Okay. He doesn't say that. Nobody on the Steelers talks about that.

Marc: Well, none of them. You know why? Until lately. T.J. Watt can't throw a football.

Chris: But you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

Steve: You're right that he needs to be the leader of that defense. Right. I agree with you there. And I think he would have people follow him in that instance. Yes. However, this The chiefs winning again shows how terrible the Pittsburgh Steelers scheming is because they think that their defense can be the star and their quarterback and just come along for the ride. And clearly the opposite is true. We just watched it happen with Patrick Mahomes. That defense was a good enough defense. They weren't the best defense, but they get takeaways. But without a Patrick Mahomes, a good defense that's good enough that has takeaways isn't good enough to even win a playoff.

Chris: Let me just make one comment about that defense, that defense. And I heard this statistic last year, the Pittsburgh Steelers gave up. uh or no no no excuse me the pittsburgh steelers scored uh 21 points in six games more than 21 points in six of their games the kansas city chiefs scored more than 21 points in seven of their games this defense only gave up net this the kansas city chiefs defense did not give up more than 30 points they did not have a 30 point game all year The Steelers great defense of the 70s never did that. The Bears 85 defense had a game where they gave up 30 points. The Ravens defense in 2000 had a game where they gave up 30 points. I am not saying that the Chiefs defense was comparable as a whole to any of those defenses. But what I'm saying is this year, the Kansas City Chiefs defense is what got them to the Super Bowl. In the end, Patrick Mahomes and his incredible magic act is what put them over the hump in the game. So I think defenses can win Super Bowls or be huge contributing factors. But the problem is that a guy like TJ Watt is not on that bandwagon, at least publicly. I mean, I don't know what he's like in the locker room, But what I'm hearing from the guy is not stuff like, man, I'm so sick of losing. I came here to win a Super Bowl. I'm going to win a Super Bowl. We're going to win. It's more like, oh, I didn't get my defensive player of the year because Miles Garrett. And I got to put up Amy's comment because she's mad now. He shouldn't even be in the NFL. He had Mason over the head with his helmet. It's bad for kids. I agree with that, but that's old news. But I didn't win my defensive player of the year again, and I just wish we'd win a playoff game. Dude, you're TJ Watt. All right, your brother is already going to the Hall of Fame first ballot. You're pretty much first ballot. He might be a Steeler next year.

Marc: Yeah, you think so? You never know. A little talk about that. But but anyway, let's but let's also bring it back to this. T.J. Watt is not what's wrong with the Steelers.

Chris: No, I'm not saying that. That's true.

Marc: It's a general.

Chris: It's an organizational attitude. And but when you've got a player like TJ, why? But I think that he can turn that around.

Steve: I don't think that's an organizational attitude. I think it's an individual's attitude towards fame. And I think he wants to be more famous than he is. And I think you see that backlash when it comes to things like not winning an award. And what the award he should really, and I agree with you, he should be focused on is the Super Bowl. And he should be talking to the Steelers about how he can free up some of his money so that they can go out and get a field. Exactly. And that's what he should be saying. Look, I want to win. This is what Mahomes does, by the way. Mahomes signed a monster contract, and he said, what do I have to do with my contract so that you can have some money? Because I don't give a shit about money. I just want to keep winning these Super Bowl. That's exactly right.

Chris: It's much more fun. Those are the intangibles I was talking about.

Steve: That's where he should be focusing his energy.

Marc: But also, too, though, let's also be clear. that it's easier to do that when you're the quarterback and you've got a state farm commercial on every 30 minutes.

Chris: Yeah, as far as the money goes. Yeah, that's right.

Steve: He can get Jordan endorsement. Right. And guess what? So could TJ Watt if they would win a Super Bowl.

Chris: Okay.

Steve: He would probably be the MVP.

Chris: Well, we've got a long off season and obviously there's gonna be a lot of changes on the Steelers because they need to fill that quarterback room back up. And who knows what's going to happen on defense. We got contracts coming due. We got a new offensive coordinator. You know, it's going to be an interesting offseason. I look forward to talking with you guys and you guys who are watching and no love for nausea. I don't want to talk about not angry.

Steve: We just got his angry scepter.

Chris: I think it's just stupid. OK, like like give me like it's fun. Yeah, it's fun. Angry run of the year. Great good angry run. right into a playoff loss.

Steve: I mean, when you go into it, you're going to see the Super Bowls, and then you're going to see the Scepter right now. Exactly. What could be more fun than that? I mean, it's so relevant. They might even let you take it out and pick it up. That's hilarious.

Chris: All right. We're going on to our next segment here. Thanks, everybody. If you're watching live right now, you're probably watching on Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn, X, or Instagram. Thanks for being here. If you want to be a part of the show, drop a comment anytime. We love it. And you can always catch the sports porch podcast right after the show. I dropped the podcast. Subscribe, leave us a review. We would love that. The website is the porch is live.com. The porch is live.com. The porch is live.com. Thank you Schwaber. So, uh, let's see. What's next? Well, we're going to go right to hockey Jesus because hockey Jesus is in the house. Yes, there he is. If you're watching hockey, Jesus is just praying for some wins. Let's just stack some wins. But hockey Jesus preaches on the podcast right after the show or right after the penguins play the sports sports podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Of course, he shuts up as soon as I mute him because he knows it's coming. Yeah, so Hockey Jesus, what's going on? I mean, they're not looking so good coming out of the break here.

Steve: Well, what's not going on is the Penguins have stopped scoring goals.

Chris: Yeah, that's a problem when you play hockey.

Steve: Normally, when you score goals, you win. And when you don't score goals, you lose. I know that's a hard concept to understand.

Marc: It's a basic concept.

Steve: Look, the reality is Malkin's gone into witness protection. He's out there with the puck, but he doesn't like to shoot it for some reason. I think maybe there's an up in his contract where it says if you shoot more than three times a game that he gets penalized. I think, I think that must be it. That's the only, that's the only explanation I can come up with. Um, look, the goalie play has been incredible. Their defensive schemes seem to be working because they're always out shooting the other team yet. They can't score a damn goal. And, and the, the penalty, the, the power play was back for a little while. and now it's back to garbage again. And I honestly, I can't really explain it. Look, they've lost five of their last seven. They lost the Vegas. They lost at Arizona. They lost to Florida in overtime. They beat Montreal and they beat Winnipeg. By the way, I know Winnipeg's probably a good team, but that Winnipeg team that they played that night was not a good team. And then these two losses this weekend are inexplainable. At Minnesota and at Winnipeg, I guess you can explain the Winnipeg one because you play him twice in three games. The other team kind of figures you out, but the fact that they only scored one goal in Winnipeg. And it was rust and they are scoring on the power play. And that's the thing. Like they are getting, they're getting everything but secondary scoring. Right. And secondary scoring is everything for this team. When a guy like Carter scores, they're four and Oh, when a guy like drew O'Connor scores, they're five and one. They really need these guys to play. I mean, Crosby, they have a winning record when he scores, and he scores a lot. He's got the most goals. He's got goals in 18 games for the Penguins. But it just doesn't make sense to me that that they can't figure out how to play somebody on the bottom six. And just to put it in perspective, they have Harkins and white on the fourth line. These guys don't have any goals. They have no goals. Like they have a guy down in Wilkes-Barre, you know, that they could bring up right now, and he could do just as good, even if he didn't score any goals. Because he would be young, and he would be learning how to play the game. And he's a big guy. And honestly, with the power play, When they bring Carter out there now, they're not putting him in front of the net. Carter belongs in front of the net. Like, there's no reason to put Gensel in front of the net. And the other thing, too, is Raquel can't really chase down a puck. So I don't think he belongs on the first power play.

Marc: What's with Raquel? I think I was noticing he was on the third line.

Steve: So, so this is Raquel's casualty of Gino not playing, right? Gino's not playing well and Raquel's not playing well. So they're not going to move Gino down. So they move Raquel off the line. Honestly, what they should do is they should move Raquel up to the first line and they should move Russ back down with Gino to get him kickstarted. I actually think that would be the smart move just because Gino needs something to get going. It doesn't seem like he has that chemistry that he had early in the season with Smith, right? That's all gone.

Marc: Uh, so I had some nice chemistry with Crosby at one point, didn't he?

Steve: Yeah. He was able to play on the first and second line. Yeah. Raquel gets lost in the mix because he's not a third line guy.

Marc: Well, he needs other players to make him better. Don't you think?

Steve: I think he does need Gino to get him the puck because he'll shoot it. So if Gino doesn't want to shoot the puck, just pass it to Raquel. He'll shoot it. He absolutely will shoot the puck. That's not a problem for Raquel, but he can't be the only guy on the third line. I mean, they had Eller up on the second line at some point also. So they're really trying to bring guys up to kickstart that second line, and it's causing chemistry problems because now You just throw whoever's left on the third line and they have, they can work or they don't work. And a lot of times it's not working.

Marc: Jesus, is the farm system bare? Because like, how come there's not like a first or a second round pick from a couple years back that's playing well in the minors?

Steve: Well, because they kept trading them away for guys that didn't get, like Raquel's an example of that.

Chris: So the answer is yes.

Marc: So it is pretty bare, you're saying?

Steve: It is bare. They do have two guys, Sam Pullen they could bring up, and Alex Nylander.

Marc: Yeah, you always mentioned you like him.

Steve: Yeah, I mean, just because they're both first round talents, why not bring them up and see what they can do?

Marc: And they've been in the minors for a couple of years, right?

Steve: Yeah, well, Nylander, they got last year when they did the trade with Chicago. And he's played sparingly, and when he's been up here, he's been good. Look, they had Zahorna up here, and he was playing well, and then they gave up on him. The only guy that they've kept is O'Connor. Clearly, they think he's a talent, and the only reason he's progressed, and he really hasn't scored enough goals, to be honest with you, but he really, I mean, he's trying. Shooting the puck four or five shots a game, that's incredible. He'll score eventually, but I just don't think that they can just go on the whims of every fourth game getting secondary scoring. It clearly isn't enough.

Chris: So remember to catch Hockey Jesus after every single Penguins game on the podcast, which you can find on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your frigging podcasts. All right. We're heading into the dead zone. It's time for what we're watching. Yes, what we're watching, what we're streaming, what we're enjoying, what we're not enjoying, what we're hating, what we're loving, all of that stuff. I'm going to go first. I'm going to go first this week just because I feel like it. Documentary. It's going to be some aliens. Alexander, the making of a God.

Steve: He doesn't look like an Alexander.

Chris: He looks more like a Sam. I'm really not sure what an Alexander looks like. I would say like… Oh, my wife, my wife's son is named Alexander. Alex. Yeah. He looks like an Alexander.

Marc: Yeah. He looks like a German.

Chris: That's exactly right. Here we go. OK, so on Netflix, Alexander, everybody knows Alexander the Great. Now, have you watched it in its entirety? Yes, I have. And it's the thing about these documentaries is they're almost it's almost as if they put an actual netflix show together that was just called alexander the making of a god and and it's a good story it's well done what i found what i found somewhat funny about it is that like it's got a dramatic you know, part to it. And it's mostly drama. It's mostly a drama. So, you'll have, like, Alexander coming into his court, and there'll be, like, a concubine there. And next thing you know, there's, like, a sex scene, like you would see on Cinemax. And so, it's… What's a concubine? A concubine is a… It's somebody you have acquaintances with.

Steve: Okay.

Marc: Not your wife. Not related to the porcupine family? No.

Chris: Not in the porcupine family. Anyway, but the thing is, is that you would go, it goes into like, so you get this, like this really, this, this, this really like almost, I would rate it as a, as a pretty good sex scene. And you're like, oh, wait, I thought I was watching a documentary. It's like, Alexander, I love you so much. And then, Next thing you know then there's a 90 year old professor from the university of egypt going. Oh alexander And it just it just struck me as kind of funny, but it's good if you like that kind of stuff good sex scenes Uh, yes, it's good 90 year old professor good sex scenes and a lot of a lot of information. Well, you sold me on that Yeah, i'm sure you All right, just because you said that, we're going with Steve. Steve is watching something on Netflix.

Steve: This is something, if you've lived through the 80s, it's something you have to watch.

Chris: The Greatest Night in Pop on Netflix. All right, tell us about it, Hockey Jesus. We are the world.

Steve: Exactly, that's the song we're talking about.

Marc: We are the children. That's a very good one. Do I sound like Mike a little bit? Very good, Mike. Yeah, yeah.

Chris: We are the ones that make a brighter day, so let's start getting

Steve: So now that we've relived the song in a very terrible way. I appreciate that. Did you know that they actually did that song the night of the AMA Awards?

Marc: No. No, it makes sense though. They were all together. They were all together.

Chris: Yeah, what did they do like awards and then get together and do the song?

Steve: Yeah Yeah, right afterwards that everybody everybody just went down to um, uh, I forget where it was.

Chris: Michael was passing the ketamine around

Steve: Well, actually, actually, there was only one person that was that was drunk during the whole thing. I think it was Al Jarreau.

Chris: Yeah. Really? Yeah. You're kidding me. No, no, no. It's a little sidebar here. Yeah. When I was in my younger days, I met Al Jarreau. Yeah. I have pictures right over here. I could grab them. I won't. But I met Al Jarreau. He did a concert in Harrisburg. My mother set the whole thing up. He did a big concert, a benefit concert for a drug and alcohol system. He was actually a drug and alcohol counselor before he became like a jazz dude. Well, there you go. He was sober now.

Marc: Somehow I don't think Al Jarreau was really highlighted here in this.

Steve: No, he absolutely was not.

Chris: But I wanted to highlight him.

Steve: I forgot that, um, Lionel and my best TJ watt here. I forgot that Lionel Richie and, uh, Michael Jackson actually wrote the song. Right. And the way they did it, like you have to watch it, but the way they did it was like, really, it was like super quick. The way it came together, pretty amazing. And once they started asking people and they said, yeah, I'll be there, I'll be there. The only guy they didn't get was Prince. They really wanted Prince. And that's why Sheila E was in the video, because they thought if they could bring her along, that she could bring Prince. And Prince was going to do it, but he wanted to do a guitar solo. And they said no. And actually, the part that Huey Lewis sings in the- That was Prince's part?

Chris: That was Prince's part, yeah. I don't even remember the part Huey Lewis sings.

Steve: It was actually right before Cyndi Lauper. That's why. Alright. But yeah, definitely worth it. It's a good nostalgia trip.

Marc: Is it a little series or like an hour and a half?

Steve: No, it's about a good hour 45. They really go in depth. And actually, you know, a lot of the singers are dead now. So it's just like, you're like, Oh, wow. Yeah. Like that person's dead. And I'm like, Oh, wow.

Chris: That's what your life turns into after a while. I guess that makes sense.

Steve: Everybody dies. Everybody's heading in that direction. Everybody hurts. Yeah. We want to draw straws right now.

Chris: We want to do this right now. Now who's going first.

Steve: Let's save it for the next next show.

Chris: Next show. Okay. Next show. Next show.

Marc: All right.

Chris: What we're watching moving on now. The Grand Schwabina is watching a nearly normal family. That doesn't sound anything like what I see. It does not look normal.

Steve: She's had a rough go. Yeah.

Chris: She's had a rough go. She looks pretty.

Marc: So, you know, me, I like watching the, um, you know, the foreign stuff. This is a Swedish, uh, show. It's, it's, it's a nice blonde hair. It's a nice, no, it's nice. Very stereotypical of you. if you're in the mood for the you know the uh the six episode limited series i'm in the mood for six episodes those are nice because it's like it's like a two night event you watch like three a night right you know they're like it's good they're like 45 minutes subtitles are overdubbed um yes I can't remember. You know, I actually, I watched subtitles with everything. Yeah. Um, just cause I, cause I, I, so I can't really remember. Right. Um, I don't even think about that kind of stuff. I'm not like a rigid person like yourself. Gotcha. Um, but, but, but anyway, I'm okay with reading English. It's good. I mean, it, it, it is pretty good. I mean, you're, it's basically, you know, let me put it to you this way. There's, there's a murder and the whole time you're trying to figure out who did it. That sounds like every fucking show I've ever watched, but it was this way, but it's in Swedish.

Steve: So it's much.

Marc: There's the difference right there. It's not it's not that easy to figure out. So it's there's twists and turns to it. And it's done kind of in a neat way, like somebody. like somebody is in jail for most of the six episodes and then they're kind of going back to like what happened in pieces you know that kind of thing that also sounds like every single word it was definitely it was definitely good is this in the future we've got to do stuff yeah we've got to talk about the past

Chris: And then, oh, it doesn't matter.

Marc: Okay.

Chris: Yeah. Uh, nearly normal family on Netflix. And again, nothing you would ever accuse me of being, um, okay. Last thing for the evening. And if you're watching us on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube X, Instagram, thank you for being here. Drop a comment. We always appreciate it. And we drop a podcast right after the show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your And so, this is something we like to call headlines that mean something. We have two of them because Hockey Jesus was too busy doing Hockey Communion. And headlines that mean something. What is that? Well, that's their headlines that mean something to us. I'm going to start with The Grand Schwabini. Let me get that picture up. So this is this looks like Reese Witherspoon. It is. Right. And you have the headline.

Marc: There it is. Reese Witherspoon eats snow and some people aren't happy about it.

Chris: She looks like she's really kind of happy about it.

Marc: She is there getting snow off of her roof. Right. And she puts various things into it and basically makes kind of like ice cream out of actual snow that's outside. And so a lot of people are just like, what's going on? You're disgusting. Like, what if a bird poops on that snow? You know, or like, you know, it can be dirty and, you know, all this kind of stuff. And she's just like, hey, I'm from Minnesota. You know, I grew up drinking water out of a hose. This is just the way we grew up and I don't think it's gross. I put a cup of snow and we put it in the microwave and we boiled it and there was no dirt in it. So she's like trying to prove that it's like, it's cool. And a lot of people are like, no, you're disgusting. So, uh, you know kind of interesting just kind of like, you know, reese witherspoon I I you know, I would not foresee reese witherspoon at this point of her career Needing to make her own ice cream out of the snow off her roof Um, but she chooses to do so and god bless her. Yeah, i've eaten plenty of snowball on my day.

Steve: Have you?

Chris: Oh, yeah

Marc: Well, you know, they always say don't eat yellow snow. Yeah, I mean, you don't eat the yellow snow.

Steve: All the other snow tastes just like water.

Marc: But what if a bird poops on the snow and it just sort of settles in? And then a little more flurries kind of come down and it's hidden.

Steve: It brings resilience to your system.

Chris: So what you're saying is that Steve's probably eaten his share of bird poop and he doesn't know it. Probably, yeah. And I'll probably outlast him. Headlines at me. Headlines, it means something. Okay, my headline, something I just could not resist. What do you guys think that is?

Steve: Well, let's see. Valentine's Day is coming up, so I think that's something you can buy for your lover.

Marc: That looks like one lucky lion.

Chris: Yeah, that's Build-A-Bear Workshop Shocks with after dark collection of adults only stuffed animals. That's hilarious. This is actually courtesy of Fox News. I saw it the other day and I thought, oh my goodness. So is Build-A-Bear kind of… What's up, Jeff? Thanks for being here.

Marc: Is Build-A-Bear kind of in trouble? They're looking for another revenue stream?

Steve: Well, you got to diversify your product.

Chris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so as the, uh, as the story goes, um, we're actually reading from the Fox news story. Build a bear workshop has provoked disgust and maybe lust with an after dark collection of adults, only stuffed animals in stock for Valentine's day. Um, it's a, it's an online exclusive product. Uh, they're based in St. Louis, really sexy city. We've been there. Um, St. Louis. The toy store features some uncomfortably suggestive stuffed animals. Now, just let that sink in uncomfortably suggestive stuffed animals.

Marc: You know what I want to know? I have a question.

Steve: People might fall in love with these things.

Marc: You know how regular build a bear like you go in, you put a heart inside and everything. This is a guy that doesn't have kids. Are there certain things that you put inside the bear?

Steve: Oh, yeah. After dark.

Chris: After dark. Yeah. Highlighters. All right. Now, listen, it features some uncomfortably suggestive stuffed animals like a monkey dressed like a male stripper or a bear wearing a robe straight from the Playboy Mansion. largely an adult to adult giving holiday valentine's day is a perfect time to consider build a bear for a surprising unique statement to make your recipient laugh out loud lol let's see uh featured plush toys include a stuff line with a zaddy shirt slang for an attractive over older man zaddy oh yeah and the you turn me on teddy bear gift set the after dark collection is age restricted to customers 18 and older no idea how they're going to enforce that and is marketed toward Oh, here we go. This is a new one. Quote, kidults. Kidults. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. You haven't heard about this? I mean, seriously.

Steve: Oh, is this another gender affirmation problem we're going to have here? No, no, no. In America. This is definitely something for the next show. I really. I've got the perfect headline. OK, you might.

Chris: You should write it down.

Steve: Oh, I already know what it is in my head.

Chris: OK.

Steve: I saw it and I was like, really? That's a thing.

Chris: Oh, actually, I think I know what you're going at here.

Steve: People can go on vacation there. Yeah.

Chris: Oh boy. Oh yeah.

Steve: You're in for a treat.

Chris: Come back next week. Can't wait. Can't wait. We're getting, we're getting, we're getting some, uh, uh, yeah. Mike Lawrence. Yay. Sex toys from build a bear. DG says those bears are stuffed with mud. Boy hadn't seen you go that dark. I gotta tell you though. I do have a my pillow and it is a good pillow It's good stuff.

Marc: They're actually Horrendous. I I have one. It's like the worst pill ever and got my life.

Chris: I'm on pillow number two, buddy Such a schmuck.

Marc: Well, I mean, I'm not gonna disagree with that. He is a schmuck

Steve: He is a schmuck. He's not the smartest guy. Yeah, no. I think their pillows suck. What do you think? Susan loves him and she hates the guy.

Chris: Yeah, really? Yeah. That's the proof. Horrible. That's proof that we can love and hate something about you at the same time.

Steve: Welcome to my life.

Chris: The increased popularity of Build-A-Bear among adults is part of the kid-alting trend in which adults lean into childhood memories in search for collectibles. Oh, you have seen nothing yet. Now, could you imagine if I leaned into my childhood memory and created a collectible? What do you think I would, never mind, I'm not even going to ask that question. A beer?

Steve: Don't worry, you can relive this next year.

Marc: A glass of whiskey. A beer. A bottle of Jack Daniels.

Chris: It would be worse than that, Schwab. Let's get a little bit more creative than that. There are plenty of adults who saw targeted ads for a sexy teddy bear on social media and were just creeped out.

Steve: Maybe this was a failed experiment.

Chris: Yeah. Why am I getting BAB thirst traps and Instagram user comment on build a bear blah blah blah blah blah. So, you know, apparently if I mean instantly I went to This I went to, uh, would, would like, like, like it's Valentine's day. Okay. And, and, and I'm out with my wife and I'm hoping for a little romance and I want to be romantic and I want to come home and I want to turn the lights down. I want to put the candles on and I want to, why are you saying all this stuff? I want to have a little alone time. Yeah. Yeah and and so we go out to dinner i come home and you know you have the whole like rose petal thing on the bed and the can i got every year you do that every year yeah probably get you pretty far yeah yeah so imagine yeah yeah there was a build a bear on your bed yeah the point exactly that's where i'm going now i am in lingerie now i've had now now i've had the balls to buy a teddy bear with lingerie on it and say hey honey let's get it on What in the hell are they thinking? I would think some marriages might end over this. Honest to God, you got me a Build-A-Bear with a strap on? I mean, come on. Well, honey, I built it myself. I built it for you. I was thinking about you the whole time.

Marc: We've gone off the rails.

Steve: Just think of the fun you get out if you bought two.

Marc: We've gone off the rails.

Chris: You're hilarious. We have.

Steve: It's our expenses, David. You are right about that.

Chris: All right. Well, let me get the let me get this stupid. There it is. It's down. All right. Listen, guys, that's the end of our show. Congratulations to the Chiefs and Patrick Holmes for winning their first Super Bowl in five years. Five more to go. Thanks for watching us on Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn, X and Instagram. And of course, dropping the podcast right after the show. Thank you so much. You can catch the sports sports podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or anywhere you get your freaking podcast. And always, you can visit us at theporcheslive.com, theporcheslive.com.

Steve: Porcheslive.com.

Chris: All right, guys. And if you want to post-game, you want to hear a little of the post-game, put that link in the beginning of the video, go to radiopgh.com. Thank you for being here. We love you all. Peace.