The Porch Is Live - Did Bednar get the All Star Snub

00:00 Steve It is. Is it, uh, is it time yet? Is it time? I don't know.

00:07 Chris Seven 32. Yeah. You think so? You got any words for a Schwab or before we get kicking off here?

00:14 Marc Bite me.

00:16 Chris Oh yeah, that's right. You are looking live at the sports porch. Pittsburgh. My goodness. It has been quite a week in the weird, quite a, could somebody help me out here? Please. It's been quite a week in the bar. That's right. Quite a week. We're celebrating our birthday early. Thank you for listening to the sports ports podcast. And of course we are coming to you from all over from Pittsburgh, all over the world on social media live right now on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, Twitter. And of course we dropped the podcast right after the show here and we got something brand new we're going to bring to you tonight and, um, thanks for listening on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, Spotify, anywhere you get your frigging podcast. And of course, of course you can always find us on the porcheslive.com, the porcheslive.com. The porcheslive.com. All right. Thanks for joining us on the show here. We got a whole bunch of people watching. Listen, you can see down in the ticker, our website, we got something new for you here, call into the show. Tell us what you think about what we're talking about tonight. There is the phone number. You will be live on the air. Don't worry. It's not video. And it's a free call for all you Yensers out there who still think you have to pay for cell phone minutes. You don't, you don't, I don't think there's anybody that thinks that Steve does. He does hockey. Jesus does. Sure. You have to pay for you. He's still back in ancient times. So 412-805-7236. It is a new feature. So if I screw it up, please accept my apologies. And, uh, hey, listen, guys, um, we're going to talk buckos right away. Your buckos report. You can catch after every pirates game on the podcast on iHeart, Apple, Spotify, anywhere you get your podcasts. Um, they're awesome. Absolutely. They are. They're doing, they're doing incredible. And Pat on track says he just came for the kutch discussion, Pat. There is no kutch discussion, but is he saying, right? That's, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

02:18 Steve I mean, there's always kutch discussion when it comes to the pirates. He's their best player. Yeah.

02:23 Chris Um, player, not pitcher. Here's where we're going to go right now. Uh, a lot of people have been talking about bed and are getting an all star snub. The first thing I'm going to say though, he didn't make it. He did. He did not. Really? You didn't know that? I didn't.

02:37 Marc I heard it was a shoe in where the hell have you been? Well, I guess, uh, up and down the block. Yeah. Right.

02:45 Chris So, uh, but the first thing I want to do though, is I want to talk about that walk off that Santana hit the other night. Uh, truly probably the most, uh, fun moment of this year so far. Definitely. Oh yeah.

02:57 Steve That was a blast.

02:58 Marc I liked the little dance at the end. Yeah. Yeah. I taught him that everything about it. Um, great. He can really dance for a big man. He can, he can all big men are fleet of foot.

03:08 Steve What I like, you know what? He's a big man, but he's not tall, but he's just like so thick. The guy just spanked the ball when he had a little bit. Bam. It is surprising to me. Did, did it actually go into the river? I believe it did. Yeah. On a bounce or like on a fly? I don't know that part. I didn't see. I didn't see. I don't think, I don't think they had video of it because you would've seen it like splashing into the river.

03:30 Chris Yeah, they didn't, they didn't have it, but I'll tell you what I love about it was first pitch. That's what I love. Yeah. It was like, you know, always the greatest. Yeah. Who was on second? Kutch was on second. Yeah. And it was like, no question. I'm swinging at the first pitch and I'm going to end this. And that was great to see. So, you know, then of course what happens is they lose the next two. Um, and, uh, that was no good. So, you know, as far as the buckos go, uh, I'll address that in a second, but really what I want to talk about here is the last couple of days all over the airways here, uh, Bednar got an all star snub. Um, my thought, I'm going to give you my thoughts can be real simple. He didn't. Okay. He didn't. Why is he good? Yeah. Is he that good? Yeah. Uh, are the pirates in a better position because of him? Not really. You know, they, they haven't had enough situations late inning for him to come in. They, they, they've gone sometimes a week without using him. Right. So it's not about that he get a snub and he's not considered one of the better relievers, it's about he hasn't been seen. Right. And so, no, I don't think he got an all star snub. Uh, what do you guys think?

04:44 Marc Well, I guess it depends on who was taken ahead of him.

04:47 Steve Well, the four pitchers who have more says than he does. Right. Okay. But his, his RAs pretty, it's better in most cases than a lot of those. Yeah.

04:59 Chris Yeah. It's like a buck 50 or something. Yeah. Last I saw. Well, who, who made it from the pirates on, uh, Mitch Keller colored. Okay. Mitch Keller.

05:08 Steve Well deserved. Art Sy young award winner. Right. Well, mid season anyway.

05:13 Chris Well, here's the thing he's pitching tonight. Okay.

05:15 Steve So can we, can we finish the bed in our discussion? Let's finish the bed in our discussion. I have a few thoughts on that. Go for it. The question is, is an all star somebody who deserves it because what they do when they're in the game or is it because they're in the game so much and they do so much with it is the reason they're an all star.

05:36 Marc That, that question completely confused me. I'm not entirely sure I could follow that. Yeah.

05:41 Chris I was not sure what he, what the hell he meant.

05:43 Steve So, so, so when he comes, okay. When the guy comes in, he's lights out. Right. He's one of the best pitchers. Right. Why does it matter? He only gets in six or seven or maybe 16 times in the, you know, 68 time.

05:58 Marc I don't think it should matter. I mean, that's the issue. I think the ERA is more important.

06:03 Steve Yeah. I mean, he's, he's been like, I don't, I don't even know the last time he missed a save opportunity. Like it's been a while since, you know, he wasn't able to finish what he started.

06:13 Marc Well, and also for a team that's under 500.

06:15 Steve He has locked down 16 wins. That's right. He had nine saves in April and he has a total of 16 saves. So he's only had seven saves since. And that's the issue. The issue is he hasn't had enough opportunity to get saves. So is that a fault of the pitcher or maybe the manager should be putting him in there and like the eighth inning or the seventh inning, like using him more.

06:40 Marc What is his ERA? It's, it's sub two. Is it? Yeah. Like 1.7 or something. I think it's a buck 50. Yeah. I mean, that's super low.

06:49 Steve That's, I mean, you can't. And his walk, his, his walk, the strikeout ratio or strikeout is eight to one.

06:56 Chris Yeah. Buck it's a buck 44, 37 strikeouts, uh, and four walks, 31 innings, pitch 24 hits, only giving up five earned runs. Um, and he does, he has two and O was 16 save. So, you know, I mean, you guys are making a case that I don't think is a bad case. I, so I don't think it's about his stats. I, and I don't think he was snubbed because he was, I think he was, well, I guess maybe if you want to say he was snubbed, he was snubbed because. You know, he plays sort of pirates. Yeah.

07:28 Steve And I think that's really the bottom line of this. The team is not that good. If the team was in first place, guess what? He probably is in the, you all started, no doubt. You know, and that's, I think that's the reality of what it is. The pirates as an organization just isn't good enough to have two all star

07:45 Chris players on their roster, even if one may be performing like one. Here are the relievers that made the all star team. Alexis Diaz from Cincinnati, Josh Hader from San Diego, Devin Williams from Milwaukee, who is pretty good. He's at least as good as Bednar, if not a little better. Did he give up that home run to, uh, no, no, he wasn't in the game for that. And, uh, he was unavailable that game. Yeah. So, yeah. And, uh, Camilo Deval from San Francisco, if you'd care to look up any of their statistics to compare,

08:16 Marc Well, how many saves and what are their ERAs? Okay. That, that's great. Thanks for making me do the hard work.

08:21 Steve No, no, I know. I know they all have more saves.

08:24 Marc Uh, that much more. Yeah.

08:27 Chris Well, Diaz in Cincinnati has 23 saves and, uh, and, uh, 219 ERA, uh, with 58 strikeouts in, I'm not in 37 innings pitched. Okay. So, so he's better.

08:45 Steve He's better.

08:46 Chris A hundred percent. Uh, I mean, it's hard to be better than what Bednar is, but he's better. He's better. Uh, Hader from, uh, the Padres has, um, 18 saves. He's got a 121 ERA better, better, uh, 45 strikeouts in 29 innings pitched. So he's better, a little better. Yeah. Uh, Devin Williams from Milwaukee. He has, um, I don't know why it's not giving me his stats when I clicked on his name, come on Devin Williams from Milwaukee. Uh, they're not pulling it.

09:22 Marc It's not pulling up. They probably have two Devin Williams. So you probably clicked the batter. Yeah.

09:27 Chris No, I didn't. I didn't. I clicked the right-handed pitcher. Uh, Camillo Deval, uh, is, uh, from the giants has 24 saves buck 89 ERA, 53 strikeouts and 30, you know, they're all comparable. I mean, really, if you think about it, the kid from Cincinnati is the one that stands out who's better. Um, but they're all comparable. So, you know, I, um, I've got half of mine to change my opinion on that and say, you know what, I think he did get a snub. No, I do.

09:56 Marc I think he did because he's a pirate. No, no. I mean, well, I want to know what the last guy was. Cause to be honest, I, Devin Williams, 30 innings pitch 1.47 ERA 18 saves. Actually, I hate to say it, but I think they actually all are better than Badnar at least statistically.

10:13 Steve I think that, yeah, I think they're all comparable, which means the pirates lose.

10:17 Marc Well, any of the lowest amount of saves.

10:21 Chris So yeah, exactly. That's why, that's why. And Pat on track, of course has something good to say. I had to teach Steve how to throw a screw ball poorly. It'll wreck your elbow.

10:33 Marc Um, where did he teach you how to throw a screw ball? I don't recall us spending much time out on the ball field. Yeah.

10:39 Chris Where was this instruction taking place?

10:42 Steve Um, I don't remember. Yeah, I'm sure. I think it was happening in an alternate reality somewhere. Yeah. It was fun though. Yeah. It was fun. I'm sure.

10:54 Chris I'm sure it was great fun. Yes. Okay. Um, but yeah, so addressing that, yes. Um, Badnar was the worst of the bunch, I guess.

11:04 Marc You know, the worst of a good bunch, but he was close, still, but still deserving. I mean, if they took five relievers, they could have threw them in there. Sure. Yep.

11:12 Steve So they were playing a little bit better. He'd have two or three or five more saves and he'd be in there. So congratulations.

11:18 Chris Congratulations. Go to Mitch Keller. Uh, nine wins. He's got a three 34 ERA, 118 strikeouts. Um, let me tell you, I really think that, um, now that we're about halfway through the C course, he pitches tonight and you know, tonight you never know, but 17 games started 11 quality starts, nine and three 105 innings pitched 88 hits, 39 during runs, 118 case to 28 walks. That's very good. Yeah. 10.1 Ks per nine.

11:50 Steve Um, and the guy's got great control. He really does. And he's got good stuff. I mean, yeah, he definitely deserves to be an all star.

11:58 Chris Well, and now that we're a little further in the season, I think that a, um, a potential mention of a possible Cy Young, should he keep this up is in the conversation. Yeah. He'll have to have a better second half in order to do that, which is going to be hard because with the team that he has to work with, I mean, imagine if he had the lineup that the Dodgers have that the Braves have, and he was pitching this way, you know, he could very well be 10 and one with a 220 ERA, you know, and then you're really in the conversation. Yeah.

12:33 Steve But as long as he continues to pitch the way he is, I think he'll be in the conversation. I just hope he can do that.

12:39 Marc I just hope he stays on the pirates. He'll finish ninth and Cy Young voting. Yeah, there you go.

12:44 Steve Thank you. I'm going with a hearty seven. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think he's going to continue to pitch well from what the little that I've seen of him. He just looks like he just has command of where the strike zone is and just does a really good job of getting quality starts every time he's out there.

13:02 Chris He does. He does. And as long as he gets run support, he, the big thing about him that I've noticed this year, the step that he's taken is that if he gets into a little bit of trouble early, he doesn't let it affect him. He, he, he, you know, he stays the course and he's able to put that base runner to the side or put that home run to the side and say, okay, I got to get the next out. I got to work on the next out. Got to work on the next out. And I think that's huge in the maturation of young pitcher. I mean, yeah, he added a fourth pitch to his arsenal and there's a whole lot that goes into learning how to pitch and learning how to change speeds and all that. But really it's a confidence thing. You know, the other pitchers on the pirates, you take a kid like Johan Oviedo, okay? He had a horrible game. This last outing I've watched him pitch enough. His stuff is not that much different than Mitch Keller's. It's not that much different. He's got a lot of late movement on every single one of his pitches. His difference is his confidence. If he's not locating, forget it. He cannot find the zone. And if he gets behind in the count or if he gets hit, uh, a few times, you know, if he gives up a few runs or if he starts the game on a bad note, it only gets worse from there. Yep. So, you know, therein lies the difference. Say they, they, they've got another kid, Louise Ortiz. This kid, it's only 14 major league starts. He's got the same kind of stuff, but it's a confidence issue. If he's confident one game, he'll go six innings, give up three hits and two runs. The next game he'll go three innings, give up seven hits, five runs. So, you know, Keller's Keller's got his confidence. Um, and right now being four games under 500, uh, I think at any time, you know, normally that would signal potential doom again for the pirates from the standpoint of their lineup. But given this division where it is right now, I mean, yes, six games out of first place in the division as we sit right now, we lost two straight. And of course, Milwaukee is one three straight. Um, and Cincinnati came back to earth a little bit. You're still not out of it. You're, you're probably out of a wild card because the wild card teams, potentially there are too many, too many that are better teams or just better teams. So the division winner is going to go. So whoever makes a run of it in this division late and wins it is going to, is going to be there. And I still think that the pirates have an opportunity to do that, especially with the younger players they brought up. And I talked about this on the buckos report, uh, where, you know, I've been questioning, of course, Shelton and, uh, Charrington and their moves and all that stuff, but I, you know, when you look back on it and you give them a chance, I still questioned some of Shelton's moves. I, I, at the same time, the bullpen has been a mess. I know, I know he's an all star, but at the same time, the bullpen has been a mess and that was hard to figure out. And it's still hard to figure out even though Holderman's back, but bringing up Henry Davis and we can argue all day long. And I'd love to hear from somebody out there. If you want to give us a call at four, one, two, eight, oh five, seven, two, three, six. Um, why is Henry Davis? And I've thought about this. Why is he playing right field? We've had this discussion, you know, he's a catcher, you know, he's, he can hit the ball. He's demonstrated that, that, that, you know, major league pitching does not intimidate him. Right. But I think he might be catching, he might be playing right field right now because we are still in the thick of it, so to speak. And it takes a little time to build rapport with pitchers and as terrible as Austin hedges is at hitting, he's got the rapport with the pitchers and then delay usually catches for Oviedo. What do you guys think about that?

16:53 Steve I think you're drinking some Kool-Aid. Some black and gold Kool-Aid. Yeah. No, I think, I think he can perfectly jump right in there tonight if they wanted to. And he could catch maybe not as great of a game, but by the end of next week, he'd be just as good.

17:10 Marc And you know, bottom line too, I'm sorry, but half the teams in the league, you know, the, the pitching coaches and the managers call the pitches. So it's, it's not like they could do whatever the heck they wanted with them. That's true. You know? I mean, yeah, that's true. So, you know, I don't know.

17:28 Steve I mean, and I think, you know, once again, this just goes to the fact that his pedigree, he's a number one MLB pick. He's going to pick it up real quick. True. No way he would have been drafted that high if he had some problem with, you know, learning things, something like that. So that's, that's where I'm putting most of my, most of my thought and faith.

17:49 Marc When I say those sorts of things, honestly, I just think this, uh, Austin hedges, who's sitting one 60. I just think he's a favorite of the manager. I agree. And I think that's the only reason why he's in there. There's no other reason to have one 60 hitter in, you know, you know, but in all seriousness, like a locker room guy, right? You know, it's got pretty eyes. He does. Are you done now? Yeah. You know, I'm just basically, it's okay. Yeah.

18:23 Chris When he does it, it's okay.

18:24 Marc I mean the reality like, and please somebody try to explain to me, like, you know, I've watched not a lot of pirates games, but a decent amount because, you know, I'm trying to follow them here for the show. Um, thank you. Sorry about that. I've never seen Austin hedges make a play where I was like, wow, he really is one of the best defensive catchers in the league. Am I missing something? Am I not watching enough games? What is, what is so special about him? Does he, is he throwing out base runners left and right?

18:57 Steve No, no, it's just about the way he calls the game and it's management of the game. Yeah. You're never going to see that because it just happens naturally. The next guy you put in there will manage the game very similarly.

19:11 Marc So like when one of their starting pitchers gives up like seven runs and four innings, that's not his fault. No, it's the pitchers. He's a great game manager. The pitcher. Right. Exactly.

19:22 Steve It's very selective and that's the thing.

19:25 Chris That's the, well, look, you're preaching to the choir here, Schwabber, because we all agree with you. I mean, there's, there's, I mean, and the only thing you were wrong about is he's actually hitting a lot better than you thought he's hitting 173, not 160. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. But I, I, I could not, I could not agree with you more for instance, the, uh, lat I think it was the buckos report a couple of games ago. I can't remember which game it was, but it was in a loss. It was in the 11 day loss where, uh, Steve and I were, Steve and I were down at the leaf and bean and then we went to dinner at these and region square and it was 11 to two and I even said to him, this game's over and I left it on in a car and away home by the way, by the time I got home, I'm in the driveway and it's in the eighth inning and they're scoring six runs and it's like they might. And then there's a rain delay. Yeah. There was like a half an hour. Yeah. And then there's a rain delay and that cold rain, but, but the last batter of the game, they pinch hit for Austin hedges. Of course you would because he's only batting 173, but they pinch hit Henry Davis and I'm like, why wasn't this guy in the game the whole time? Why wasn't he catching? Right. You know, he probably would have had another hit. So there are still things that kind of, they, they stick in my craw about the way the team is. Man, they should crawl. What is your crawl?

20:49 Steve Can anybody tell me what your crawl is? You know what it is? It's up here. It's the thing you don't have.

20:56 Marc It's in your stomach. Your crawl. Yeah.

20:59 Chris Who knows what a crawl is? What is that? Can somebody look that up? Your pits. It's in the, in the pits of your stomach. I think it's in your head. Your crawl. Nobody knows what your pride. Well, it sticks there wherever it is. Just when you need Pat on track, he can't help us out. All right. Trauber is going to figure out.

21:15 Steve I got one more thought on this David Bednar thing. Please. I actually think I'm the problem.

21:22 Chris Wow. That's a hell of an admission. Yeah.

21:24 Steve Yeah. Because remember probably a month ago, I was saying how I thought he was fat. Yeah. I think somebody picked up on that and they're like, we can't put a fat guy in his, an all star.

21:34 Chris Yeah. Cause they wouldn't want him to be fat shamed or anything. Right. Right.

21:38 Steve You know, so I have to apologize. And I did apologize since that time because I actually don't think he's fat. I mean, he is, he's a big, he's pudgy. He's a big pitcher, but he's certainly not fat.

21:50 Chris Yeah. And I'm pretty sure you're saying that just to keep your health.

21:55 Steve Well, I, you know, I, I know how popular this show is and it gets a lot of traction out there and I'm thinking like I put that out there too soon. Yeah. Not in it. Like, like all the excitement for his statistics.

22:09 Chris Yeah. Well, fat or not, you're not going to outrun his hundred mile an hour fastball.

22:13 Steve Oh no. If he hits me with it, I'm dead.

22:15 Chris Gone. Yeah. I'm dead. Right in the head. Taking your life in your own hands. Have you figured out what the crawl is yet?

22:21 Marc Well, to be honest, there's a couple of versions and some of them are just too long to get into really. Um, what's the gist? Give us the gist. It's a British expression. Oh, and it's really about, um, something like food sticking in your throat, but it's basically to be difficult or against one's conscious for one to accept, utter or believe. Sticking in my crawl. Yep. Sticking in your throat. Okay. Well, English, there's a lot of, he was closest saying it's of the head. Yeah. It wasn't close. Yep. Well, it's an attachment to the head.

22:57 Chris I'm just, I'm just glad we were able to get away with mentioning the word throat and nothing else happened.

23:03 Steve That is good. Cause you wouldn't want to talk about getting crawled in the throat.

23:09 Chris Oh, don't forget your buckles report after every pirate's game on the podcast, on the I heart radio app, Apple Spotify, or wherever you get your frigging podcasts. And what that also means is that yes, yes, tonight there will be a buckles report after the game. I will be taking one for the proverbial team. Man, I'm telling you those West coast trips. Yep. Yep. I've done them in your life. I've done them. But I wouldn't say they ruin your life, but they make it harder.

23:37 Marc That's true. It makes you wonder why do those people live out there?

23:40 Chris I don't know. Seriously. They're always three hours behind. Yep. Yep. Yep. And Jeff Graby act says in your crawl, annoyed to disturb the peace of mind, especially by repeated disagreeable acts. Well, that that's it. Listen, man, if you made that up, I feel like that was kind of wordy. That's the gravy, the gravy act dictionary. Okay. So what we're going to do now is obviously move on to something more entertaining, hopefully. And I do want to remind you that the next episode of the show is going to be about the American busker. I heart radio channel at four PM. The sports porch. Um, and also hockey Jesus who preaches on the podcast and hockey Jesus is actually going to preach right now.

24:26 Marc Are you getting ready to take us up to the spirit in the sky? Hockey. Hockey. Jesus has some preaching to do about the penguins.

24:34 Chris Call us at four one two eight oh five seven two three six to join the show and give us your thoughts. It's a free call. Um, go ahead hockey Jesus. We got, we got a lot. We got Jari. We got so much here. There's so much here. Take it away. The penguins have made 11 player moves. Wow.

24:52 Steve And on the Ocho hockey, Hey, Seuss, it's crazy. I mean, I've, I've never seen so much turnover in a team. This penguins team, I don't think ever in the history. Yeah. I mean, think about it. So, I mean, I've never seen so much turnover in a team. Think about it. So they pick up Riley Smith. They get Ryan Graves. They get no car. A Lars Eller, you and a Copa and Alex needle. Jick can't even pronounce his name. Needle. Jerk.

25:23 Marc I don't think he's going to make it. Knee.

25:25 Steve Yeah, probably not. Ned and needle in the needle. The needle jerk. He's a goalie. He's only got a one year contract anyways, from Detroit, Ryan Shea, Matt Nieto, and then they re-signs a Horna, Mark Johnstone and. Magnus Hillberg. Hmm. That's a good hockey name. She sounds like somebody, somebody from the sound of music. And I didn't even say the biggest name. The Hills are like Tristan. Tristan Jari is your Pittsburgh penguin goalie for the next five years.

25:56 Chris How do you feel about that? Yeah. Call us for one, two, eight, oh five, seven, two, three, six.

26:00 Marc Um, how do I feel about that? That's what we want to know. What is, what is, what is Jesus feel?

26:08 Steve Well, I happened to be at the leaf and being with the technical director when this all came down. Oh yeah. When the news broke, we were there. Yeah, we were there. I was on the phone trying to make calls to make it not happen. And it happened. Yeah. You tried hard to. And I think I used a four letter words that wasn't fudge. Yeah.

26:28 Marc Well, fudge is a five letter word. Five letter word. Yep. But we got what you were going.

26:32 Steve I used the four letter words. We digress. Hmm. Um, so, and then I, I, I took, I took it away from myself. I said, there's nothing I can do about this. What would have been the alternative to not signing Jari? It wouldn't have been better. That's what I came up with because the goalies that are out there now, I mean, let's, let's face it, the fires are never going to sell us Carter heart that was never going to happen. He's probably still better. Hella bucks going to be too expensive. You can get him this year for 6 million, but then next year you're without a goalie again, and that's not what the penguins want to do. They want to create some consistency in the goalie position. The, the, the problem with Jari is he gives you consistency, but he also gives you injury. So I'm hoping and praying as the hockey Jesus will pray. Thank you, Mark. That they actually know that his hip situation is not chronic and it just was something that flared up this year and it won't happen again. That would really suck. But I'm just saying, right. But if it does, I think they're in serious trouble. I mean, Casey De Smith is an adequate backup. There's nothing wrong with him as a backup, but if Jari can't play for a week or two at a time and he goes on the long-term injury, they're in big trouble again, because they didn't do any, they didn't do enough. I love Ryan Gray's. Don't get me wrong. I think he's going to be a great defenseman. They signed him to a six year contract. Um, and he's a big guy, but he alone is not going to stop pucks from going into the net. Um, so they just didn't do enough in the defense core to make me feel warm and fuzzy. If Jari goes down, that they can keep pucks from getting into the net. Yeah. And I think in the system they play, we know Sullivan's not going to change. He wants to play that speed game, which means there's going to be back and forth going on. And there's always going to be opportunity for the other team to score lots of goals.

28:43 Chris And isn't this something that people are always concerned about with Kyle Dubas, because he seemed to have an issue with goaltending in Toronto.

28:50 Steve So the thing with Dubas is he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't look at the goalie position as something that you have to spend $10 million on. He thinks that if you spend six to 7 million on it, that's enough to make your team good enough to be able to compete because the difference between a number 10 or 15 goalie and a number of four or five goalie is literally, if you look at the stats, it's like a safe percentage of like maybe nine 20 versus nine 11 or something.

29:23 Chris Right.

29:23 Steve Which is like less than a goal. Right. Okay. So, so that's, that's where his mind is. And he's been very open about that. Like he, it doesn't surprise, it shouldn't surprise anybody. He didn't spend a lot of money to get a goalie. I just wish they would have went to get somebody different to try something new. That's the only, that's the, that's, that's my biggest concern with bringing back Jari. Familiar and familiar lately has been either not making the playoffs or making the playoffs and losing in the first round. Jari doesn't have that, Hey, I'm going to win a first round series for you so we can, so we can move on from this. He's still an unknown when it comes to the first round. And that's, that's the biggest problem that I have. Well, I'm going to have to live with it. Yeah. I mean, he's, he's the guy now. So that's what you got to do. Let's talk about some of these other guys though. I mean, they spent about $20 million to get some of these guys in. And most of them are like 20 older twenties, Ryan Shea. He actually is a, is a lifetime AHL or he's the youngest. He's at 26. They only have him for a one year, but you know, they got Lars Eller who's 34 year old journeyman, you know, we know him from playing in Washington. Ryan Graves is definitely the cream of the crop. He's a 28 year old, six, five, two 20 big guy. He's not going to be like Brooks Zorpik running people over, but nobody's going to be able to run at him and he plays 20 minutes a game. So he'll definitely be playing. He'll be playing with Latang in the first pair, a hundred percent sure that right now the lines look like Sid Raquel and Jake Malkin Rust and Riley Smith will play on the wing with him. Now that Zucker went to Arizona, the third line looks like it's probably going to be Eller this is a weird line. I don't know how I feel about this line right now. I don't feel very good about it, but the third line would be Eller, Carter and Grandlin. You mean the fourth line? The third line, the fourth line will be a Kari, a Nieto and O'Connor. I don't know. I, everybody says that that's probably better third and fourth line than we had. I don't know. I just don't know. I'm going to have to do some analysis and look at these guys. I do like Lars Eller. I have to agree. I like Eller better on the third line than Carter, but Carter's still there and he's going to be playing on the right wing. So I just don't know how that's really going to help them. So it's, it's, it's a mixed bag for me right now. I do like the fact that they went out and got so many new players, like some of these, these guys that I named. They're not even going to be in the starting lineup, but they're going to be competing for a job and I think that'll make, that'll make the off season pretty interesting. And especially when they get into, when they get in the camp to see, you know, who's going to be vying for those positions, actually think I would move O'Connor up to the third line, move Grandlin down or even cut him.

32:38 Chris Are there any more moves left to make?

32:41 Steve Well, there is talk. I don't, I don't know how they do it. Um, but Carlson's still out there. And supposedly the Penguins and Carolina are like the last two teams that are in it, but they literally have no more cap space left to sign a guy that makes 11 and a half million. So that means they would have to, they would have to find a way to get rid of

33:03 Chris Petrie's contract, Ruta's contract, and probably somebody else. Didn't they, didn't they have, uh, weren't they in the top 10 in cap space available at one point?

33:15 Steve Well, I mean, I thought they had 30 million bucks.

33:18 Chris Well, they spent 28 and they spent 28. Yeah. Oh, okay. They spent 28. All right. I thought it was closer to 20.

33:24 Steve No, no, they, they, they spent more than that. Um, but they did lose someone, you know, Zucker and Dumo left, right? Um, uh, Zucker signed a $5.3 million contract with Arizona and Dumo's, uh, signed a two year deal with Seattle for 3.2, which makes sense for Dumo, by the way. I mean, there it's like Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh West out there in Seattle land. Right. Um, the Kraken. Yeah. I think that'll be good. I think that'll be a good pickup for Seattle. That's a physical league. I don't know. Dumas is going to last two years out there. It's physical as they play, but, but we care anymore. We don't. That's right. But you know, Brian Doomlin is a good guy. You know, we got him in the, uh, in the, uh, Jordan stall trade. He was the throw in guy. So, so at this point right now, the roster seems to be pretty set going into preseason. Unless they can find a way to dump Grandland's contract in Petri or Ruta. Those would be the guys that would have to move to be able to bring in somebody

34:25 Chris like Carlson. So this flurry of activity for the last week and a half and all, you know, now, uh, preseason starts September, right? Yeah. Okay. It's a, it's a, it's a layover. Yeah. So now we got about six weeks of, you know, nothing, maybe, I mean, you never know. There could be a surprise.

34:42 Steve I would keep an eye on what's going on with those contracts, right? If, if they could somehow find a trade or a trade partner. So, or if, um, so they can get Carlson. So San Jose might, will be willing to keep $3 million for a couple of years

34:56 Chris or something like that. How does getting Carlson change their outlook for this year? Even with the signing of Jari? Cause that's a big contract, even if somebody agrees to take the money on.

35:07 Steve It changes their whole defensive structure because now they go from, um, people who might be able to pass the puck up to wingers to, that will move the puck to Carlson, basically skating up himself when he's in, and then LaTang when he's in being able to skate it up. So they basically have two skating defensemen who could move the puck and you don't have to worry about passing it as much.

35:29 Chris Does that play into the whole speed game?

35:31 Steve Definitely plays into what Sullivan wants to do. And, and, and, you know, he always tells his defensemen, you know, play up, which means go get the puck if, if rather than just wait back there for the puck to come to you, go get it. He, he would love to have somebody like Carlson. Well, if they're on the same page. But they have to dump a lot of salary. I just don't see how it works with the, with the, with the amount of salary he commands and he signed for like five more years at 11.5 million.

35:58 Chris Well, they did just hire the guy they consider the boy genius to run the team. So you never know. Right.

36:04 Steve Yeah. And somebody mentioned this, I forget the name now, but there was a person they brought in who basically is their cap, their cap genius, capologist. Yeah. And, um, so clearly they're, they've got their work cut out for them to figure that one out.

36:20 Chris Okay. Hockey Jesus. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. Busy few days.

36:24 Steve It has been, it has been winter services. Uh, services will be next Monday at seven 30. There you go. Thank you for today's sermon. There will be no mid, uh, midweek service. Okay.

36:38 Marc Did I do that right? I don't know. Okay.

36:41 Chris Did you even hear it? No, it's more like a, okay. Who are the players to watch on the Steelers this year? Right now, call us at four one two eight oh five seven two three six and tell us your thoughts.

36:50 Marc Uh, you can do that right now while we're live by the way. No DG or Trombley today, by the way. Well, you know, I was.

36:57 Steve It's, it's the nation's birthday.

36:59 Chris It's a holiday. I was thinking that because I was watching the live viewers and I thought, huh, it's a little, it's a little low tonight. And then I thought that July 3rd, you know, this is America birthday. Eve, America, America birthday, birthday, birthday, Eve. Uh, we do have a comment here. Of course, Steve needs to get a check from the penguins. We all agree.

37:20 Steve Do you mean a check? Like as in a check into the boards?

37:23 Chris No, like a paycheck, a money paycheck. He means a paycheck. That's what he needs. Means. Okay.

37:27 Steve Just be happy to get a visit from like Sid or Mario that that'd be good enough. Okay. So, uh, so who are the players stop by and have a drink anytime they want.

37:36 Marc I'd like to stick a live penguin in your house. Hmm. That's from the zoo. That's a hard one. From the zoo. Okay.

37:47 Steve I don't think a penguin is not too far away from where you live. That's true.

37:50 Chris My cats would take care of those things. Okay. All right, Pat. Fine. Happy fricking birthday.

37:55 Steve We know Pat, we were saving it for the end, but if you want to know it now, happy birthday, Mr. Birthday boy. I never really care. Yeah. He's a fourth of July birthday. Yeah. Who cares?

38:04 Marc That's disappointing. It really is.

38:05 Steve You didn't know that about that?

38:06 Marc So what kind of friends are you guys? I always feel bad for those people. Like with Christmas is their birthday. Yeah. July.

38:12 Steve I would think like fourth of July would be a good time.

38:15 Marc Christmas is a worst birthday because yeah. Yeah. I mean, New Year's everybody's going out partying anyway. New Year's that's, that's a perfect time. Thanksgiving birthday. Yeah. Oh, that changes from year to year. Doesn't it? Who wants to give? You could be sometimes. Halloween birthday. Halloween. My daughter, Halloween.

38:36 Steve I think a Halloween birthday would be okay. That's a bad, it's a party.

38:39 Chris Halloween birthday is a great birthday.

38:40 Steve No, no, that's a good time.

38:42 Marc Yeah. Well, maybe if it gets like weird and is really in the Halloween. Yeah.

38:45 Steve Well, even if, even if you're not, people are not saying yours was, you just wanted your birthday to be a party.

38:51 Chris All right. Come on. We're going to talk about this deal is your real quick. Let's talk stillers. Okay. So on the porches live.com coming out this week is a new post that is going to be dropped probably sometime tomorrow. And it's going to be called who are the most important Steelers this year. But before we drop that post, we want to know who you think the most important Steelers are going to be this year. Now on the list that I came up with, there are five. But I'm going to go over one and I'm not going to tell you where I rank him. And then we'll ask these two guys right here who would be on their list. So believe it or not, one of the guys on my list who I think is key and very, very important this year is Mr. Mullet, Cole Holcomb.

39:39 Steve Really? Yes. Yes. Why I was not expecting that. Of course not.

39:43 Chris And I wasn't going to give you something you expected. And here's my argument for that. Or here's my reason. Cole Holcomb played for the commanders and he showed flashes of being a very effective middle linebacker. Okay. And he's got the what's the little emblem they put on him. Yeah. The diamond. He's got the, he's got the headset. They call it something. What do they call it? The Steelers, the middle linebacker. They, they call it, they call it the green dot, the green dot. He's got the green dot. Is that true? Is it? Yeah. Yeah. The green dots for the captain.

40:12 Steve They get all the plays in their, in their helmet. Yeah. Right. So he's got the green dot. Yeah.

40:17 Chris Right. So he showed flashes when he played for the commanders of being a super effective linebacker, he can, he can cover the pass. He can cover the rush. He's, he's a good player. So where they, what they have lacked at for the last five years, I mean, we're not going to go over, you know, the debacle, Devin Bush and all the other guys they signed, I think for the defense to be consistent. Okay. And by consistent, what I mean is when TJ Watt is in there, we all know that the, that the defense is on another level because the offense has to account for TJ Watt, but when TJ Watt is not in there, they struggle. Right. And the reason they've struggled is because of that linebacker play. And so when you bring in a guy like Cole Holcomb, who is coming off an injury, but you're penciling him in there as the starter, he is very, very important. If he makes an impact and can change that linebacking core, even make them 20% better than first of all, when TJ Watt is healthy and playing, it only adds to the destruction that they can cause. And when TJ Watt goes down, it, they, they aren't quite as porous and, and easily attacked as they have been before. So there's one of, one of my five guys on the list of possibly the most impactful players on the Steelers. Schwabber want to take a stab at it? Or have you just forgotten about the Steelers?

41:46 Marc There's so many. Well, there's so many that are easy. I mean, should we skip Kenny Pickett?

41:51 Chris No, it's no, what I'm saying is who do you think? I came up with a list of five for the post. If you want to tell me who the number one guy is, would be on your list and tell me.

42:00 Marc Well, yeah, I definitely think number one is Kenny Pickett. Right. Yeah. You know, it's all going to, you know, the success of the team is really going to be about, you know, how he matures in the second season. You know, if he, if he improves substantially, the team could be very good. If he's average, the team will probably average and if he's terrible, they're going to be terrible. I mean, that's really, that's really what it comes down to. Incredible analysis. It really is. But you know what? It's the truth though. I mean, as your quarterback goes, so does your team. You know, it's the most important all position, all sports for a reason. Right. Yeah. Now granted, there's a lot of things I think that have done, been done around him that should help him be better improving the line. And although the ones, although I will give a negative though, is that, you know, you still have Matt Canada and that effect. So that he's not a player. He isn't a player. But then again, like, you know, we've often talked about this before where, you know, Kenny Pickett's actually got to have some, uh, guts to at times sort of do his own thing, you know, um, and not just go along with the seventh jet sweep of the day. I'm out there guys. Nobody can hear me. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, um, yeah, I mean, I'm going to say Kenny Pickett. He's, he's the most important guy.

43:40 Chris Okay. So Kenny Pickett, Traubor, um, and I can't disagree with you on that. Uh, I actually believe we're getting a phone call. Are we? Yes, we are. Yes.

43:50 Steve All right. Well, let's see who they think. And who is it?

43:55 Chris Let's see. Hello. Hey, thank you for calling the sports porch. Who is this?

44:01 SPEAKER_01 This is Lauren Klein.

44:03 Steve Oh, my goodness. The Pittsburgh property.

44:10 Chris She is your first caller. Oh my goodness gracious. How about them apples right there?

44:17 Steve My, what do you, what do you, what do you think about the Pittsburgh Steelers, Lauren?

44:21 SPEAKER_00 What do I think about the Pittsburgh Steelers? Come on.

44:23 SPEAKER_01 I don't, I don't know. It's been ages since I've watched the stealer game.

44:28 Chris Has it really been that long, honey? I never made you watch one.

44:32 SPEAKER_01 I'm sorry.

44:32 Chris I never made you watch one.

44:34 SPEAKER_01 Well, you do, but I can't say I remember anything.

44:37 Steve She probably falls asleep with a nice blanket and a coffee. Yeah. A coffee and a blanket.

44:43 SPEAKER_01 I'm worried about their uniforms getting dirty.

44:46 Steve Yeah. They do get dirty. Yes. Yeah.

44:49 Chris They do get dirty. She does. She always says things like who cleans their uniforms. And I say, they give them new uniforms for every game. And she's like, no, they don't. I'm like, yeah, they do.

45:00 Steve They do. I'm sure they do. Yeah. Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do.

45:03 SPEAKER_01 Who gets the old uniforms then? Do they get recycled or donated or what?

45:07 Steve They can, they trade, like you'll see guys trading their jerseys at the end of

45:11 Marc the game sometimes, but I do believe there is a strong recycling program. I am just saying that. That's it.

45:20 Chris That's it. So, so honey, I'm going to, we're going to name a couple of Steelers. Okay. And we want you to, we want you to pick the Steeler that will have the, uh, you think will have the biggest impact on their season, um, this year. And I'm going to, I'm going to pull up this list. I'm going to name the five Steelers. Uh, and you tell me who that person is going to be. Okay. I agree. I agree. Who that person is going to be. Okay. Hey, Brad's finally in the house. Hey, Brad. What's up, Brad? Good to see you, Brad. Okay.

45:55 Marc Um, Jason Huntley. Why don't you pick people she knows? She doesn't know any of them. Yeah. She doesn't know any of them. She might know a couple of the big ones. She knows Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett. Yeah. Give her Kenny Pickett, TJ Watt. I think if it's Patrick. I think you're, you're, you're missing the whole point. No, you're missing the point.

46:18 Chris Okay, sweetheart. Kenny Pickett.

46:21 SPEAKER_00 Okay.

46:22 Marc Uh, Najee Harris, TJ Watt or Minka Fitzpatrick. Minka Fitzpatrick.

46:34 SPEAKER_01 I'm going to TJ Watt.

46:36 Chris There you go. She, you know that name though, don't you sweetheart? You know that.

46:40 Steve Well, he usually has the dirtiest uniform. True.

46:43 SPEAKER_01 Yeah. If he has the dirtiest uniform, then that's who I know.

46:49 Marc Okay. Is it appropriate to call our caller sweetheart? Uh, well, I know her. Absolutely. Yeah. You do know her. I do. Okay.

46:57 SPEAKER_01 I'm your biggest fan and your biggest sponsor. There you go. Yeah.

47:01 Steve So I've seen that on a picture somewhere. Yeah.

47:04 SPEAKER_01 You didn't call me anything you want. There you go.

47:07 Chris Yep. Well, I just put your picture up again because I'm, I'm, you know, that's what he does. Okay. So, so we have a couple of comments in here while, while we have you on the phone. Uh, Brad Tromley says, good evening, Jensen. He also says, hi honey.

47:26 Steve Honey, sweetie. We're, we're all friends here on the porch.

47:29 Chris And, uh, I want to ask you one last question, property diva, uh, before, before you go, um, well, two, two questions. First of all, where can anybody find you if they want to buy or sell a property in Pittsburgh? There, there's the sponsorship Pittsburgh property diva.com. Of course. Pittsburgh property diva.com. And we do a segment here called, what are you watching? And then we talk about it. So, and it's streaming, you know, what are you watching? So what are you watching right now?

47:57 Steve I'm watching the housewives of Orange County. Uh, housewives of Orange County.

48:05 Marc Yeah. I'm not, I'm not that into that. You Chris, um, when I have to be, is this your guilty pleasure that you're not telling us about? Yeah.

48:15 SPEAKER_01 He, he will watch it with me. And we can tell by the look on his face. We can tell.

48:20 Marc Turning red.

48:21 Chris I can't, he watches it. I'm not turning red. Yeah. He is.

48:25 SPEAKER_01 You guys, I prefer to watch it by myself because he has a lot of back end questions. Yeah.

48:32 Marc So he is actually really interested in.

48:34 Chris He wants to be brought up to speed. Well, I want to know who's mad at him.

48:38 SPEAKER_01 What? He just wants to interrupt me.

48:41 Chris Come on. No, I just want to know what the, I just want to know what the story is. So I understand why these women are pulling each other's hair and screaming at each other and throwing drinks in each other's face.

48:51 SPEAKER_01 It's called entertainment. My guilty pleasure, the housewives. I love the Bravo TV network.

49:00 Marc So Chris, do you also watch the bachelor and the bachelorette?

49:03 Chris Yes. Yes. But I, I, I watch those alone. Smart. I do. You don't want to cry in public. Okay. Pittsburgh property diva. Thank you so much for calling in.

49:16 SPEAKER_01 All right.

49:16 Chris You know, we love you. See ya.

49:19 Steve Bye. All right. I guess now I get to speak.

49:23 Chris Yeah. Now you can, now you can talk to us about who you think that is. Uh, but Brad does want to say that he's taken us up on that offer to get together because he has his, uh, tickets for October 28th versus the senators. Yeah. This is a hockey game. That's a hockey game, baby.

49:39 Steve All right. That's an early season hockey game. Way to go for ad get in early. Senator should be fun to watch.

49:44 Marc Who wants to get in the sense whenever they come in?

49:47 Steve Yeah, seriously.

49:48 Chris I actually centered some good young town. It's a hard to get ticket. I mean, they have Claude Drew. Yeah. The old is he's an old flyer, right?

49:56 Steve This is a difficult question because you could take it a couple of different ways. I actually think it's going to be about the offense. And I agree with Mark and everything you said about Kenny Pickett. He's definitely the linchpin, but I think in order to make the linchpin better, the run game has to be great. And so for that reason, I'm definitely going to go with nausea. I think, I think he's got it. He has to rush for at least 1200 yards. Minimal. I'd love to see, I think in order for him to really open up who he thinks he is, he's got to rush for 1500 yards, to be honest with you. And he needs to catch about 75 balls. And that's a big ask, but I think that he's ready for it. I mean, he's in this third year. Let's face it. He hasn't really shown any flashes being able to get to the second, to the second tier of running and running people over there. That's what I want to see from nausea this year. And I think he's, he's going to be, he's going to be the key to that. Cause if he can do that, he's going to give Kenny Pickett another second or two in the pocket, and I think he's still going to need that this year to get better. So I think if they can get the run game to where it's basically top five in the league, I think that makes Pickett a better passer and pick it's still going to have to throw for more touchdowns than he did this year. He's going to have to throw. Oh yeah. He's going to have to throw for two touchdown and three touchdown passes consistently before I can, I can say that he's an NFL quarterback. There's no doubt about that. Yeah. I know, but I think that gets him there. I don't think he can do it on his own. Right. I just don't think he can do it on his own. So I agree with a better offensive line. I think the protection will be there, but without the running game, I don't think he can get there on his own.

51:43 Chris And you're right. Uh, nausea his first year, he, he rushed for 1200 yards. He did have a 3.9 yards per rush average, which isn't horrible. I mean, you know, it's not horrible seven touchdowns, but here's the big thing though, and this is 74 receptions for 460 yards. Um, then last year he ran for a thousand 34 yards. Took a step back. But yeah, but about the same average, he had 30, uh, he had almost 40 less carries though. So 40 times four is 160 plus 1034 is your 1200 yards. So he didn't take a step back. He got less carries at the average.

52:25 Steve He did exactly the same. I think he needs to put a full season together. That's my point.

52:30 Chris I get you except for, uh, he only had 41 receptions for 229 yards. Yeah.

52:36 Steve So some of that's not his doing because they, they, they changed the way they do things because, you know, they had a different quarterback. I'm what I'm saying is I think if that quarterback can get back to checking it down to the running back, that will help. That'll help him also.

52:52 Chris I agree with you on that about nausea.

52:54 Marc I'll tell you something that, uh, both Kenny Pickett and Naji Harris have in common Chris Klein fell in love and out of love with both of them.

53:04 Steve Uh, yeah, that's true for different reasons. Yeah.

53:09 Chris For different reasons. No, no, no. No, no.

53:12 Steve No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I do need to clarify. I think, you know what I think it is? I think it's that freshman crush.

53:19 Chris Am I not allowed to clarify my feelings on this show? After we're done talking about you.

53:23 Steve It's not really a show about feeling. Yeah.

53:27 Chris All right. All right. So you can go ahead and there's a lot of pressure. Well, there's a lot of truth to that. Yes. I, I totally fell in love with Naji and then I fell completely out of love with him. So, um, Kenny, I haven't decided if, if I'm no longer in love with him. Uh, what I'm saying is that, uh, this is the second year. That's right. There you go. Okay. There was a courtship here. Yes. It's true. It's exactly right. That's exactly right. Okay. So as the season goes on, uh, we, we are absolutely going to continue. Uh, as you can tell, we're getting excited about football. Um, it's just, ah, man, come on. It just can't get here. It's real close. Get here soon enough.

54:06 Steve It can't now that USFL is over with.

54:08 Chris Yes. Oh, thank goodness. Hey, I believe the Pittsburgh mall was championship game. Yeah, they lost though. They lost former Steelers receiver caught like three touchdowns to bury them.

54:20 Marc Does that count as a championship loss? No.

54:26 Steve They didn't even play in Pittsburgh once this year. Yeah. All right. So stupid. They're just the Pittsburgh mallers. I mean, just, you think the NFL had, they have enough money to make this league happen, do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's a, it's a joke of a league, but you know what, as long as they can, they can stay relevant and they can be on the screen 24 seven, three 65. That's what the NFL wants, baby. Yep. That's right. It doesn't have to be great.

54:52 Chris Okay. Moving on to the last segment this week. What are you watching? That is what are we streaming right now and enjoying on streaming television? We want to know what you are watching as we had asked the Pittsburgh property divas as well. She's watching the, well, she always, she watches all the housewives except Atlanta and DC and Miami's no longer around. But so she watches New York. See, he knows all of them.

55:16 Marc Holly. Did you know that? Why doesn't she watch Atlanta? Yeah. I, I basketball wives.

55:23 Chris I don't, because she just doesn't like basketball. Okay. That makes sense. Thank you very much. Uh, Buffalo bandits, champs again, says Pat on track. And only Pat would care. Okay. So, uh, what are we watching? We're going to start with Steve this week.

55:41 Steve Steve, you are watching last chance you on Netflix. Yeah. Now this is season one. Actually, Mark, I did look it up and they actually have a season two for the same basketball. There are also football ones and I haven't seen any of the football ones, but I did see all of season one for last chance you basketball. And let me just tell you, this is great entertainment television for two reasons. One, it's about junior college, right? So you have a lot of guys who either tried to make it in division one basketball and failed or were headed in that direction and couldn't get there either because of grades or family life got in the way, something happened. Right. And it's just like a lot of broken families and the coach, you know, basically becomes his family. And these coaches get paid nothing. Like literally he gets paid like $5,000 to coach this team. And it's like hundreds of hours a week of work. And the guy basically does it because if he gets good at it, maybe right enough at it, he's going to get a big payday some day. Right. But he really, you can tell, like, he really cares about these kids because, you know, he came from a similar background, you know, he made it into the pros. And you can just tell he's very passionate about basketball and what it is about life. But just a great show. I mean, the best thing about this one, the season one is it ends in COVID. So everybody knows how COVID ends. Yeah. It ends badly for everybody. Like a big splat. It's like we're going to the championship games, you know, and, and, and it's like, they, they have a chance to win the championship and this coach has never won the championship, although he's been in the finals like three times in six years or something like that. And then it's like, okay, we're going to wait, what's going on? We can't get on the bus. They're canceling everything. And it's like, you get, you started to get PTSD. Everybody will, I promise you. When you watch the last episode, you're going to be like, Oh my God, that's right. COVID just destroyed everything. And they do like a five months post. Right on it.

57:51 Marc And I like, so they do tell you what happens. They do tell you like the, and you know, with the words.

57:56 Steve Yeah. And so you get to see words like this. Yes. Yeah. Gotcha. Words like this on the screen. Those kinds of words, those kinds of words, English words. Yeah. It's in English. It's not Italian. It's not.

58:08 Marc There's subtitles. Can you handle that?

58:10 Chris No, but yeah, great. I, they do it in Swahili. I can.

58:16 Steve Okay. Well, it's not, so I'm sorry. All right. Um, but yeah, you get a chance. Definitely check out last chance you on Netflix. Yeah.

58:23 Marc I've enjoyed those shows. They're good.

58:25 Chris And DG is actually in the house. He wants to say Antonio Brown stiffed his team with their last paycheck. Antonio Brown is stiffed an awful lot. Yeah. He's a pretty much a walking stiff, a pad on track. Lots of guys can shoot Steve D one guys can play D what? Okay. All right, Mark, you are watching, I believe it's a movie.

58:50 Marc Yeah, it was a movie. It's out in the theaters as we speak. No hard feelings starring Jennifer Lawrence. Very funny. I really enjoyed it. Beginning to end, you know, coming of age story for the youngster, not very good with the ladies, parents hire, uh, what they think to be a sex worker. Although this is really just her first go around because she's, uh, Jennifer Lawrence's mother passed away, left her the house. She hasn't been paying taxes. She's a fearful of losing the house. She's an Uber driver. Her car got towed away, so she needs a car and they're going to give her a car. If she will date hard, this young man. What does date hard?

59:34 Steve Date hard. It means date hard. That means she's in it to win it.

59:40 Marc Does it have anything to do with not allergies? No, no, no, it does not. It was, it was very funny though. You know, this is one of those where, I mean, I don't know, you guys, you guys maybe aren't as with it as let's say I am. So like I would imagine you had, have you seen the commercials? No. Okay. So you haven't, um, but you know, sometimes when you see previews, you, you kind of think like, did I see all the funny scenes in the previews? Right. You know, and that's where I thought maybe that was the case. And like, it totally wasn't, there was like a just boatload of funny stuff. And it was really good. All right.

01:00:15 Chris No hard feelings in theaters now starring Jennifer Lawrence.

01:00:18 Steve Who's surprised. I thought maybe I, you would go for the Indiana Jones movie.

01:00:23 Marc No, you know, I don't know. Like I'm sure I will see it at some point, but at the same time, it's like, do I really need an 85 year old like Indiana Jones? Like at this point, it's kind of like, come on, like, can he even like run anymore? I mean, he's probably like, you know, they're putting him like on like a, you know, a masseuse around the clock just to deal with, you know, scenes where he has to walk. See G G G I you've all you've obviously, you've obviously thought a great deal about it. Yeah. I mean, you know, just think how much more he had to act because of disease. I don't know. Like, you know, what, what's there going to be another, you know, bolder that rolls after him? I mean, of course.

01:01:04 Steve That's the joy of these movies. It's all about the bold. Yes. Lap. So I'm like, I'm actually thinking of going tomorrow. Are you? Are you really? Yeah. Yeah. What time? Maybe I'll go with you. Afternoon matinee, you know, little afternoon delayed down to waterfront waterfront. Yeah. Okay. I'll send you a text flitching in what I'm thinking. Okay. Anybody else want to go the waterfront? We'll see you down there.

01:01:28 Chris Thank you. Schwabber. Thank you. Yes. Uh, I am watching something on Apple TV plus called the crowded room with Amanda Seyfried and Tom Holland. Um, Tom Holland. Yes. My daughter loves that guy. Th Brad Trombley says he's enjoying the show tonight. Thank you, Brad. We enjoy you being here. Hey, the phone number's down there. Give us a call if you want. Yeah. Join the show. Tell us what you're watching. The crowded room is on Apple TV plus. And I would, I, I'm going to do my best to give you what it's about without giving away what it's really about. Okay. The first thing I'm going to say is crowded. It is crowded. Are there three or more people in it? There are definitely three or more people. Do the walls cave in at some point they begin to. So it's a horror movie. No. Are there really walls in this room? It's a series. Um, theoretically.

01:02:24 Steve See, is there a table in the room? There is. Does it involve narcotics?

01:02:32 Marc Kind of take that as a yes. Kind of. That's a yes.

01:02:35 Chris Well, well, kind of. Well, it's not like what Schwab likes. No, no. Right. Are there flashbacks? Um, that's an easy one. I mean, you can say yes for just about everything you watch.

01:02:45 Marc Yes, there are flashbacks. So it's not original. Uh, what?

01:02:50 Steve I don't understand that either. So in the end, is everybody confused?

01:02:59 Marc I don't know, but I'm starting to get confused right now. Um, maybe you're in the crowded. Is the scene is a theme song performed by the band crowded house?

01:03:08 Chris No, because this is the crowded room. It's performed by the crowded room by crowded room. Yeah. Okay. So, uh, what I have to say about this is that, uh, Tom Holland is, uh, wait a minute, wait a minute, panel track. I saw this. I saw the Sean Connery one with that distance swimmer. Geeze. She was good looking. Pat. You're off track. Yep. As you get it back as usual.

01:03:35 Marc Uh, in the world is he talking about? I don't know. That's what I was thinking.

01:03:43 Chris It's got to be something named crowded room or something. I have no idea. I have no idea. Uh, okay. All right. So the crowded room, Tom Holland puts on a, uh, an incredible performance. That is what I have to say about that. He really does. He shows that he is very, very talented and diverse in the, in the roles that he can play because we all know he's, I think he's Australian, isn't he? Yeah.

01:04:06 Marc This is Tom Holland's sort of emergence into the Hollywood elite.

01:04:11 Chris I think so. I really do.

01:04:13 Marc I think so because he, he, let's just say, I'm just giving you better words than you're spitting out.

01:04:18 Chris Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Um, and, uh, so he's very good. It takes place in the 1970s. It's based on a book about a true person. I'm not going to name the person, but there was a, it would, no, not, it would give it away if you saw the documentary on this person, which I saw the documentary on this person. So, uh, but it's, it's, it's really good. It's about, it's about a kid who is one of those kids who was kind of bullied in high school or in high school when, and when he was younger in the seventies and his mother went through a divorce and he has a stepfather and home and it's like a broken home sort of thing. And then he, and then when he gets to approximately college age, he gets into some trouble and he ends up acting out and he ends up in jail and he heads up in jail. The summary we're going to, you know what? We're going to have our own movie. It's going to be called the summarizer. And all it is, is it's going to be a series of violent, uh, violent, uh,

01:05:21 Marc escapades and then Mark in the back going, acting out now and now in jail, time to reflect, getting killed. Anyway, it's surviving.

01:05:31 Chris It's really good. Slammer. It's really good surviving the slam. The crowded room on Apple TV plus. We've been on that. We've been on air for way too long. Yes, we have.

01:05:43 Steve It happens when you got a birthday to celebrate.

01:05:45 Chris All right. Absolutely.

01:05:47 Marc Happy birthday, Merica birthday, Merica, safety tomorrow folks. I'm going to fire them into the sky.

01:05:55 Steve There you go. And make sure they make it into the sky.

01:05:58 Chris And we are running out of here as fast as we frigging can. We'll see on Monday of next week.

01:06:03 Marc Come back for more. No.

01:06:11 Steve Happy birthday. Pat.

01:06:17 Chris Thank you for watching the sports. Sports podcast all over social media on Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, Twitter, on the i heart radio app, Apple podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get your frigging podcasts and you can always catch us at the porches live.com. The porch is live.com. The porch is live.com. That's right. We will see you next week. I'm your technical director and I am out. Good stuff. Anything left to say? No.