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Chris:
Yes, it is. It is time to play the game. It is time to play the game. Oh, yes, we are. We are live the sports sports black and gold edition here on Facebook, YouTube X, LinkedIn and Instagram. Welcome to the Graham. Welcome, Graham. What did you call your grandmother? Graham. Graham.

Steve: Graham. Graham. Graham. Graham. Graham.

Chris: Graham. Graham. Graham. Graham. Graham. Yeah, I call her grandma too.

Steve: No, no. Mine was mostly Grammy.

Chris: Not me. Mall. No, no, no.

Steve: Meemaw there. Never Meemaw.

Marc: I don't like Meemaw. Yeah.

Chris: I feel like Meemaw should be said more often. Meemaw sounded to me like Hogmaw, but we can describe that some other time.

Marc: All right.

Chris: The Sports Sports Black and Gold Edition here in Pittsburgh, all over the world on social media. And of course, you can find us, our podcast, we drop it right after the show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify. or anywhere you get your frigging podcasts. And, um, Hey, look, for those that like to just listen, if you want to listen live, I'm going to drop a comment right now. Radio PGH is officially our sister radio station. You can listen live to the sports porch on radio P G H. And that's what it looks like right there. Radio PGH. How about that?

Steve: It looks like a circle.

Chris: How about that? It does. It does. So what are we going to do tonight? Well, we're going to talk about the Buccos. We're going to talk about the Steelers. Hockey Jesus is in the house as usual. We're going to have our Trader Joe's snack time. We're going to sample something I think the boys are going to like. And the Grand Schwabini is going to make a prediction. He is to my right. Oh, yeah. He needs to make up for that. And for those of you watching, we are all in the same studio. We just have three different cameras. We're all in the same studio. So we can reach out and touch someone if we need to. Not that we will.

Steve: Keep your hands to yourself.

Chris: And then we are actually going to talk a little bit about what we're watching. Excitement abounds. Excitement abounds. And here's here's something. The Buccos report right now. Roddy Tollez. Oh, lines one, two. wherever the hell he lined it to right field. Yeah. And he gets a double. And, uh, I, I got a problem here. It's telling me that my battery is low. I don't know why I'm on battery power boys. So why don't you guys talk about the pirates while I check my battery power? I would rather commit suicide.

Marc: You have to plug in. I know, I know.

Steve: Demands power. Right. I think one of you guys, much like the pirates who are powerless,

Marc: But tonight they found a smidge of power, at least to the gaps.

Steve: Well, it seems like they always find power when Skeens is pitching. Why is that, Mark?

Marc: Well, maybe when you just feel like you're going to win when you walk into the park, it kind of puts everybody at ease.

Steve: Yeah, I think there's something to him in the locker room, too. I've heard that, you know, he kind of is like not a jokester, but a guy who commands respect in the locker room. that's got to be something big for the Pirates because Otherwise, they don't really have very many people like yeah.

Marc: Well, he's he's a star Yeah, I have not had a star on the team in a very long time Well, and I got the power situation sorted out.

Chris: I don't know why that happened, but we're watching the Pirates right now behind Steve And you know watching it backwards, which is yeah more fun.

Steve: You like that? The third base well skeins is really interesting

Chris: Skins did give up a run in the first inning, which is uncharacteristic, but you know it's going to happen in his career, of course. But the Pirates come back, and so far they've scored three in the bottom of the first. And Reynolds had a ground rule double. Cruz got on base with a hit into left field. Tellez, he's heated up a little bit. I mean, who the hell knows how long that's going to last. Now we got Connor Joe up here. But here's my question. Here's my question. There's your clear Paul Skeens is pitching tonight. Right. Connor, Joe Paul Skeens is pitching tonight and also game five of the NBA finals is on. Which one do you watch? I mean, obviously we're watching this gun to your head. You got to watch one. You got one TV, no phones or internet devices. Are you watching the NBA finals Mavericks trying to make it a three to two Boston or are you watching Paul Skeens pitch tonight? Which one?

Steve: I'm going to let Mark go first.

Marc: Yeah, well, I I well, there is one TV. I just split it. I watched the first six innings of Paul Skeens and then I go over for the second half of the NBA finals. Yeah, that's bad.

Steve: That's like, OK, I'm not even going to fake it because I'm not watching either.

Chris: There you go. There you go. There you go.

Steve: There you go. I will put, I will put on the NBA as I'm getting ready to go to bed just to see where it is because that might be like the third quarter. So if it's close, then maybe I'll, I'll continue to watch it. Right. But honestly, I'd rather watch the Calder cup finals between the Hershey bears and the Coachella

Chris: whoever they are well you're a you're a weirdo you're hockey jesus okay so the time for the buckos is now paul skeens is pitching tonight buyers or sellers at the deadline who would you like to see in a buckos uniform comment below and let let us know i mean there's a lot of players out there there's a guy on on chicago on the white socks who's a pretty good, I think, right fielder. There's a guy on the A's they could bring in here, not the pitchers from Pittsburgh.

Marc: I think the fact that you're asking this question means that you're clinging to any kind of hope for this team. They're not gonna be buyers. What are you kidding me? They're not gonna be buyers? What are you thinking? I mean, they're gonna be, you know, somewhere between, you know, best case, like right now, three games, between three games and 10 games under 500 at the trade deadline.

Steve: Yep, I agree with that.

Marc: So they're not going to buy anything? No, you don't think so? They're sellers. If anything, Brian Reynolds is going to go somewhere. Yeah, we talked about that.

Steve: I don't know. I think they kind of just keep the team intact because it's not, it's not doing bad. And I don't think they want to upset the apple cart because let's face it, they're going to get a lot more, uh, attendees at this stadium, uh, this year because of skeins. So why, why sell off the team and piss off your base when you don't really even need to.

Chris: Well, what's what? Okay. That, that, that leads me to another question. That's a good, that's a good subject, right? What makes the pirates fans more angry as if we're not angry enough, not being buyers and not doing anything or being sellers? What makes them more angry? They do nothing at the deadline. Or they trade somebody, somebody on the, on the major league roster.

Steve: I would say if they traded somebody like Brian Reynolds, that would probably piss off some of the, some of the core fans. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would be, that would be a bad move. Not to say they won't do it and I'm not going to lie, but I don't, I think there are very few people like that. I think even Connor Joe people thinks he's a joke. So if they traded him, I don't think they would be that upset. Like if they got rid of, um, O'Neill Cruz.

Chris: Well, people would be upset. That's not going to happen. We know that's not that's definitely not going to happen. But Bednar, how about Bednar?

Steve: Yeah, I mean, he hasn't had a great year. Yeah, I think they would. I think they would. But they wouldn't get upset if they if they traded Chapman. Yeah. Well, it depends on the person.

Chris: We kind of knew going into this season that Chapman was assigning for trade bait. Right. So I, I just have the sneaking suspicion that the plan it's already baked into the cake that it's not going to end the season on the pirates.

Steve: So, I mean, that's to me, not, not anything that's going to upset the fan base. So, Why not do that because that's what they do. They dump salary and but they won't pick up anybody else. And I don't I just don't have a good enough feel whether or not that's going to piss off people if they sell somebody but don't pick somebody up.

Chris: Well and I you know I think Mark Mark talked about this earlier you know clinging to hope. That's all we've been that's all we've had for 20 years is clinging to hope. You know, I mean, we're clinging to the hope that, um, skeins Jones and Keller continue to perform at this level. I mean, look, skeins just struck somebody out right now with a pretty nasty pitch. Um, he does have 25 pitches now through one out in the second inning. So, and it also is like 95 degrees out there, but that was a pretty nasty pitch. You need some proactive. Yeah. Yeah. And he can't get off of that. You think he could afford some proactive, but I, I think that, you know, the biggest tragedy here is going to be having this pitching staff and not doing something. And they don't have to do much. Look where they are. Three games under 500 with a look. A couple of players have kind of come into their own a little bit. They've started to heat up a little bit. You know, you've got Tellez is batting. like somewhere around 500 in June and we're 17 days through June. So, okay, you don't need him to bat 300 and hit 40 home runs, but if he could bat 250 or 260, you know, you're changing the landscape. O'Neal Cruz has been hitting the ball much better lately. Brian Reynolds has been hitting the ball much better lately. So, you've got a pitching staff that, you know, Skeens is not having his best outing so far tonight, But the time is now. It's right now. And if you're not going to take advantage of this, if you think that Paul Skeens, even if he continues to be the phenom that he looks like he is, is going to fill the stadium next year with another horrible lineup, you're sorely mistaken. You're sorely mistaken, because the fans were happy about it. Now they put 20,000 asses in the seats for these games. But next year, if the lineup is still dismal and you've done nothing to improve the rest of the team, it's going to fall back to, you know, nine, 10,000 at most for a Paul Skeen's outing. You know, maybe not. It's the law of diminishing returns.

Marc: Maybe not. Just depends on how good he is. And it looks like he's pretty darn good. Yeah. I would say it's not now, though. I would say the time to win is next year, probably because, you know, look, you got The three pitchers, the two of them are on year one and Keller's really on year two, so to speak. So you got them for a while. The reason why I say it's not now, it's next year, is because if you could take a Brian Reynolds, or a Bednar, let's say, and actually get some high-level prospects that could even join the club the second half of this year, or at least be a real strong candidate to be a starter next year. Obviously, they'd be prospects, so they'd be young. So, it would be adding that to O'Neal Cruz, and some of the younger guys, that could be a big, big difference.

Chris: Yeah, and I guess what I'm talking about is there are a couple players out there who were injured to start this year. One of them plays for the White Sox, can't remember his name, but he hit like 38 home runs. He's under control for another two or three years. They could probably get him by trading a few of their prospects. He's the kind of bat in the lineup. I think his OPS this year now is over 700. You add that guy this year, it doesn't mean they're going to win, but that's the kind of guy. Now you've got him under control for the next few years. He's a bonafide major league hitter. So I think the time to do it is now. And the reason for that is you can get a couple of these guys at a little bit of a discount and they're under club control for three years, which is the window that you have with Skeens, Jones and Keller. You know, instead of waiting to the off season and then saying, or trade, look, this trading for prospects has been the pirates M.O. for 20 years. Right.

Marc: Well, they haven't done well with it. That's right.

Chris: You can do very well. Yeah. But who said they haven't done well with it with Charrington? I mean, you know, I mean, he's not the guy for it.

Steve: You know, Henry Davis was supposed to be the guy. Yeah. And he's not. And he's not.

Chris: And so Winski was supposed to be number one overall pick. Right. And so Winski was supposed to be a guy and he's not.

Steve: And that's the problem with the pirates is they're not going to go out and give somebody a 300 million dollar contract. That's really what they need to do.

Marc: Yeah.

Steve: They need to get that guy. And they need some of these prospects to hit.

Marc: Or not even that. I mean you could get three guys and pay him each 100 million.

Steve: Name a team that made it to the ALCS or the NLCS that didn't have a payroll over $100 million.

Marc: Probably nobody. Maybe the Orioles. The Orioles didn't make the ALCS. Maybe Tampa Bay, maybe one year. Yeah, one year. Maybe the Royals.

Steve: But even then, when they went out and got a player, when they knew they were good, they were probably $150, $175 million payroll.

Marc: Yeah, probably.

Steve: The pirates would have to add a hundred million dollars to their payroll to get to that level. Right. And they're just not going to do it. So I don't even know why we have these conversations. It just drives me friggin crazy.

Chris: Yeah. Right. Well, I, you know. This is going to be a very, very frustrating year for the Pirates. And it's wonderful to see somebody like Skeens up in the major leagues, pitching the way he pitches. But we know they're going to squander this opportunity. That's the thing. I mean, all the talk. all over sports radio, all over the media is, you know, what they should do, what they could do, what would happen if, I mean, we're talking about it right now, but I think the bottom line is if we reach deep down into our soul, we know God damn well, they're not going to do anything. No, they're just not going to do anything.

Steve: Let me ask you a question. How about this for a question? Do you think that skeins really belongs in the major league all-star game?

Marc: No. I don't know, maybe by that time he might.

Chris: No, I think Mitch Keller is our all-star.

Steve: Do you think if they're both on the ballot, and I don't know that Skeens is by the way, if they're both on the ballot who would get more votes? Skeens, definitely. Isn't the all-star game at this point a popularity contest. It is. Yeah, it is because it's voted on by the fans. Yeah.

Chris: So then, you know, Mitch Keller is eight and four with a three thirty six era. He's got seventy eight case in eighty five innings pitched. Paul Skeens is three, you know, with a two forty three era and he has forty six case in twenty six innings pitched. But for my money, my all star is Mitch Keller because he signed that big contract. Uh, and up until his last start, you know, he, he was pitching just as well, if not better than, than Jones and skeins. Those guys are just the guys that like Jones surprised everybody, uh, Bailey falter surprised everybody. And Paul skeins has been brought up and he, he pretty much is, you know, as advertised. So I, Mitch Keller is our all-star now official. Chris Chata says, why DFA Fleming to bring him back? He did pitch well though the other night, but still, you know, the guy isn't very good. So you release him and then bring him back because that's what the pirates do. They, they, they, they bring guys up and down and up and down. And it's, it's, you know what it is. It's well, let's hope he does better this time. That that's literally what it is.

Steve: They're just filling roster spots. And you know what? He's middle relief anyways. Right. So who cares? Who cares about that guy? I think that skeins belongs in the in the major league all star game because of this reason. I think he would actually talk to real players and may be able to talk some of them into wanting to come to the pirates.

Chris: That's an interesting take.

Steve: That's why I would do it. That's why I would do it. And on top of that, let's face it, Livvy Dunn would get some, some FaceTime and Major League Baseball would love that. Yeah. And this is what it's about now. It's not about the game because nobody goes to watch the game. They go to see what stars are there. And most of the stars don't even want to be there anymore. They're those like, I'd rather have a three day break. I don't want to go to the

Marc: Well, the pitchers, though, they get picked by the managers, except that's true. Yeah.

Chris: So Skeens and Keller aren't on the balance. Yeah. If I'm so he'll probably make it then. I don't know if I'm if I'm Sheltie, I'm sending Mitch Keller because I'm I'm rewarding my workhorse.

Marc: This is why he's got it. Not well, it's not Sheltie's choice.

Steve: No, it would be whoever the major league.

Marc: It would be whoever lost to. I think it's, yeah, it's whoever, whoever loses the ALCS and whoever loses the World Series. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So it's, it's, um, the Diamondbacks manager. Yep. And the, um, whoever Texas, Texas, the Houston, Houston, right. Dusty Baker, if he's still there. I don't know. Yeah.

Steve: Yeah. Okay. So I gotta, I gotta DM Dusty Baker. Is that what you're saying?

Chris: Yeah. DM Dusty Baker and tell him to send Mitch Keller, please. Okay. We want, we want Keller. Not okay. Catch the sports porch podcast. We drop it right after every show, anywhere you get your podcast in the I heart radio app, Apple podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your frigging podcast cuts with another base hit. Um, and obviously you can follow the sports porch, uh, on YouTube at the sports porch podcast, subscribe, leave a review, hit the notifications button. Um, now do we have a grand Schwabini prediction? We sure do. The Grand Schwabini predicts.

Marc: Today we are going to look upon someone who used to be a Chris Klein favorite. I know who that is. Jack Soinsky. Remember all the Klein talk. Just play Jack Zawinski. I know. Hey, look, I own it.

Chris: He's a good center fielder. I own it. 100%. He should play cleanup.

Marc: He's got power. Okay. Jack Zawinski. Will he? He isn't quite up to snuff. Yeah. Now the question that the Grants will address is he is currently hitting 180. Will he get over the Mendoza line? Will he end the season 200 plus for his average or 199 below? And the Grand Schwalbini says, Jack Sowinski's season ending batting average will be 197. Oh, there it is.

Chris: He's not going to make it. Jack Swinsky will not end the season over 200. No, he won't. Well, I… Write it down, folks. …actually happen to be on the same page with you.

Steve: I hate to say that. Well, he may not even end up on the Pirates. He may end up in AAA.

Chris: But what you should say, though… He might not have another option because they sent him down earlier.

Marc: This is what you should say. What should I say? Is that the Pirates ruined him.

Chris: You know, I got it. I got to tell you, I can't. It looks like the Pirates are going to score another run here for screens.

Steve: It's so funny watching Kutch run around our space to home.

Chris: Yep. Reynolds within a day to get a base. It looks like I got to say this. I, I thought so. Winski was great because I saw him hit a bunch of home runs and I saw him play a pretty good center field. And I thought, this guy looks like a player. And then as these last couple years have gone on, what I've realized is that he has a lot of trouble locating the ball when he's up to bat. And that has been there since the beginning. So I'm not so sure that the Pirates ruined him.

Marc: I think it's more like… Should he have gotten a referral for LASIK surgery? Probably.

Chris: Or or worn Charlie Sheen's glasses in major league, you know, just put some glasses on but I think it's more like he had these issues when he came into the league and O'Neill Cruz just struck out again He had these issues when he came into the league and the Pirates just couldn't fix him that that's really what I think it is Because 5050.

Marc: Yeah, it's kind of a 5050 not great not grading not great hitting coach But also I agree you still got to kind of do it yourself. I agree. I

Chris: So should we stump the Yenzer now or should we go on to Hockey Jesus in the playoffs?

Marc: Well, if the stump the Yenzer has to do with baseball, then I say we try to stump the Yenzer.

Chris: It's kind of split.

Steve: Just do it now.

Chris: Let's get it over with. Okay, so stump the Yenzer. We have our official Yenzer, Hockey Jesus, sitting across from me, born and bred in the Pittsburgh area. Family full of Yinzers. They're all living in the woods, building chicken coops, planting corn for whiskey. It's true. It's damn true. It is true. It's a hundred percent true. So the question for Stump the Yinzer, what happens is we try to stump the Yinzer. If he gets a question wrong, our resident non-Yinzer, the Grand Schwabini, gets an opportunity to answer it, to be crowned Yinzer for the week, honorary Yinzer for the week.

Steve: So the question this week is… I've been killing it lately.

Chris: Yeah. Which two Pittsburgh sports legends were Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year in 1979?

Steve: Come on, this is so easy. It's Pops Willie Stargell and your quarterback from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Terry Bradshaw.

Marc: Hey, hey, hey. All right.

Chris: That was really star drooling.

Steve: That was their song. You're absolutely right. That's a famous Sports Illustrated cover, by the way. I know. I wanted to softball. Lots of people have it hanging in their in their man cave.

Chris: I had a I had a feeling that you would know that.

Steve: I think the doctor has one, actually.

Chris: Does he? Which two Pittsburgh sports legends were Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year in 1979? That was Pops Willie Stargill and Terry Bradshaw. So we did not stump the Yinzer. Sorry, Mark. Maybe next week.

Marc: Maybe next week. I'm waiting.

Chris: All right. A couple more segments to go here. If you're watching live all over the world on social media, Facebook, YouTube X, and Instagram. Thank you very much. Um, if you leave a comment on Instagram, it takes me a little bit to get to you because it's on a different screen. So thanks for being here. And we dropped the podcast right after the show, everywhere you get your podcasts, subscribe, leave us a review, and you can always follow us on YouTube at the sports porch podcast. And now, and now. We are going to move into a reverent mood because we have a very, very spiritual figure in the house known as Hockey Jesus, who preaches on the podcast after every single Penguins game during the regular season in the NHL. And currently he is preaching on the podcast after every single Stanley Cup final game. Florida is currently up three to one after that eight to one drubbing by Edmonton. We got a game tomorrow night. So Hockey Jesus preaching on the podcast. And right now he's going to give us a quick synopsis because you'll be back on tomorrow night.

Steve: I will not be back on tomorrow night. Well, why not?

Chris: Well, because they're playing tomorrow night. Oh, well, OK. Wednesday morning. So you'll be back on Wednesday morning on Wednesday after game five. So here is Hockey Jesus.

Steve: And let's say, you know, unless the unless the company is actually given away. It might be worth going live after if that happens. I think that if you've been listening to me, you would know that I would be saying that the games are actually a lot closer than they really did. And then, then they, then it looked, there were just a few moments in, in all the games, every single game that's been played. And in the first three, they all went Florida's way because Bob was there to make the stop. And in this game, Well, I mean, Bob wasn't making the stops, but Edmonton was spot on. They, they, they brought their a plus game in winning eight one. And some of those scores, there's nothing that could have been done now. I, Paul Maurice really said some interesting things in the postgame and I agree with Paul Maurice says they gotta stop that long stretch paths that opens the whole ice for Edmonton if they can stop that long stretch pass I don't know how Edmonton can get through the the middle zone that Florida clogs up so well with speed. They can get through the zone, but they just can't get through with speed. And sometimes only Connor McDavid does, and he has proven he can't do it by himself. He needs a lot of help. So I think if Florida can get back to that, then the 8-1 game means nothing. Look, it was everything for the fans. If you were at the game from Edmonton and you were either in the moss pit or you were at the actual game, you were having an absolute blast. And that's really what it is about Edmonton at this point. They just want to try and keep those good vibes going. The other thing, too, is I think, you know, Florida has been so reserved throughout this whole thing, like we're just taking it one game at a time. They're not celebrating their goal.

Chris: We talked about that last week.

Steve: Yeah, and I think that that I know now that's a that's that's a facade because the Stanley Cup was there to be delivered and They've got nervous. I Truly believe that they just thought about their names being on the Stanley Cup forever They're gonna get the raise that thing and they weren't thinking about the game. I think they lost their focus completely in Honestly, I think in the first period if they would have gotten some of those goals things would have been different But once Edmondson started pushing back, they just couldn't get it back. Honestly what it sounds down to it I hope for Florida's sake that Barkoff isn't hurt. You know, he got he got slammed pretty hard In the previous game and he didn't play the last few minutes. He didn't need to because they didn't need him, but he didn't look a hundred percent And I know everybody says this time of year, all the players are injured and all that bullshit. Um, but I just hope for Florida's sake, he's not hurt because that could, that could really hurt Florida's chances to getting back to that team game that they play where, you know, all five people, well, yeah, all five people on the ice, including the two defensemen kind of just play a structured game that doesn't allow Edmonton to get to their speed.

Chris: Well, we, we shall see on tomorrow night if, Uh, last night's game was a fluke or if Edmonton and Connor McDavid, you'll see the game tighten up a lot more.

Steve: There's no way Florida is going to let them come storming back like that again. And I think Skinner had his best game. You'll see Skinner revert back to, you know, not being the guy.

Chris: So you think Florida is probably going to win the game tomorrow night?

Steve: I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be one of those four, three games. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see an overtime game and an overtime game is, you know, flip a coin really, um, because, um, the pressures on both teams at that point.

Chris: Okay. Well, you can hear the hockey Jesus after the game on the sports porch podcast on the I heart radio app or anywhere and get your podcasts. And of course you can watch his updates on YouTube at the sports porch podcast. You can just type hockey Jesus into the search bar.

Steve: Always comes right.

Chris: Absolutely.

Marc: With you.

Chris: Here's something we skipped over. Uh, hard knocks is coming to the AFC North and Pittsburgh in season. Do you think this is a good thing or a bad thing for the Steelers? Cause if you, if you go back to a couple of years ago, they asked Mike Tomlin about hard knocks. Would he, would he like hard knocks to be, you know, part of Steelers to be part of hard knocks. And he pretty much said no way. So yeah. Yeah, so well, I mean, I think it'll be fun for us in a way.

Marc: It'll be fun for us. Well, the thing is, the in-season is very different than the training camp, right? The training camp exposes a lot more, whereas the in-season, it's almost like we're already watching it. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Chris: It's delayed too. They delay it.

Marc: Yeah. It's delayed and it's like we're already watching it. You know, it's like we're watching, you know, it's basically, you know, the, the lead into the game, you know, you, you can imagine what they're focusing on. Like, Hey, everybody stay focused, be in the details, you know, and then, and then they'll play the game. And then if they win, it's just like, you know, all right guys, you just gotta, Keep focused, right? You know, we got a player game. Anybody's trying to knock us off every week. Come on, guys. You know, we got to keep it going. You know, and then it's the same. It's the same like, you know, media stuff you'll see all week. They'll comment after the game. It's I don't really think the in season personally is very good. Yeah. Whereas I think the the training camp is great. Yeah.

Steve: But how do you think it's going to work when they have 14. Well and so here's the thing I thought about that.

Marc: Now they did do one season where they did the L.A. Rams and the San Diego Chargers as a twosome for the training camp. And I didn't like that year because I felt like you didn't get enough time with each team. And that was two teams. Well, instead of four.

Chris: The thing about doing it with the AFC North is you've got four teams and arguably this year, no matter how you slice it up, any one of these teams could win this division. Arguably. Well, one of them is. Well, we know that. Yeah, that's right. Either one of them is going to win it and three of them aren't. No, but what I'm saying is, I don't think it would surprise a lot of people if Baltimore wins the division. I don't think it would surprise a lot of people if Cincinnati wins the division. I think that would surprise people. Well, I mean, with Joe Burrow, you got to understand, you know, you've got LaVar and Lamar.

Steve: I think everybody would be shocked if Cleveland won it. I think we can easily say that.

Chris: I don't know that everybody would be shocked. I mean, they, they, they, they, one, you know, uh, defense, Garrett got defensive player of the year, blah, blah, blah. We can have that argument some other time, but well, we already had that. They had a good defense. All I'm saying is that if you're talking about in season, you're talking about a division that is potentially, potentially a tighter division that any one of those teams does have the ability to win it. There's not a true winner of this division. There's not one team where you're like, they're definitely

Steve: Yeah, there's not a team that's gonna run away.

Marc: not catching here is look, it's it's like it's like an hour show. I know. And so, you know, if you've got four teams to cover and I'm sure what's going to happen is depending on how the season plays out, let's say it's, you know, the Ravens and the Steelers are battling, right? They're going to get a little more time, right? Exactly. They might get 15. They might get 20 instead of 10 or 15. Right. You know what I mean? But it's not going to be a lot of time. Yeah. And and that's You know, I don't know. To me, the cool part of Hard Knocks is the stories about these guys who are trying to make it as, you know, undrafted free agents. It's also, like, really evaluating the coaching staff. Like, you know, here's the thing. We all think, you know, Mike Tomlin is a good coach. Obviously, the record suggests he is, right? And he certainly seems to have the respect of players. That's pretty clear, right? But we've also, like, never really, really seen him in action. And that would be interesting to see. I agree with that. You know, and it would also be interesting to see as well, like, you would be able to see something with the training camp version. You would be able to see, like, is it, is the defense 100% his? Or, how involved is the Defense Accord? So those things are interesting to me. I think during the season, I can already tell you right now, it's going to be a lot about Russell Wilson, of course.

Chris: You know, but that's an interesting story for us. You know, look at look at Talaz launching a ball into.

Marc: Oh, you should have caught.

Chris: He should have caught that. Are they going to give him a hit or an error?

Marc: They're going to give him a double. They'll give him a double for it.

Chris: And I think and he didn't actually touch the ball. Adding to the legend of rowdy Talaz.

Steve: Hey, let me let me ask you a question. This is around some conspiracy theory. Oh, I love it.

Marc: Right. I know you love this. Yes.

Steve: Do you think that the schedule had something to do with they knew they were going to be on hard knocks and they pushed a lot of the AFC North games to the end?

Chris: A hundred percent.

Marc: Yeah. Well, what's it covering though? Is it covering the end of the season?

Steve: Well, they said it was going to start in December, December 3rd.

Marc: So that means they're probably starting to film like beginning of November, late October. You got it. Yeah, probably. So there's no, there's very few games in September and October within the division. Yeah. They're backloaded.

Chris: They're backloaded.

Steve: They're all in the last eight games.

Chris: Well, yeah, then definitely. That's a good question. I haven't heard anybody ask that question anywhere. I might've missed it, but I haven't heard anybody.

Steve: That's the first thing I thought of.

Chris: There is rowdy to Les caught in a run down.

Steve: That's not good for him. Needs to lose a little weight. He's, he's just, you know, that's his weight loss gimmick. Yeah. You got it. Sorry, rowdy. My God. Go get a Snickers. Yep.

Chris: So yeah, I 100%. Yep.

Steve: That's the first thing I thought of when I saw hard knocks. I'm like, Oh, now the schedule makes a lot more. Yeah.

Chris: See, this, this is all bullshit about how Amazon web AI kicks out a schedule and then they just kind of rubber stamp it. That's complete crap. Okay.

Steve: No, they know all that stuff going. Yeah.

Chris: So maybe I probably factored it in. That's what I'm saying. They, they, they condition or program the AI to do this is what they do. Okay, so Hard Knocks is coming. That's fine. It'll be interesting to watch. It'll be interesting to watch this year.

Steve: Don't forget about Training Camp. It's coming.

Chris: Training Camp is coming too, and we'll have a lot more to say about that. But right now, right now, it's time for… Oh, food?

Marc: I love this.

Chris: Taste the biscuit. Taste the biscuit.

Marc: Taste the goodness of the biscuit. Taste the honey sauce. Taste the goodness of the biscuit with your honey sauce. Don't get that honey sauce on me. I don't like the way you taste my chicken wings.

Chris: Mike, we'll get to your question after.

Steve: Actually, we could probably talk about it while we're having this.

Chris: Yeah, maybe we'll do that. Okay, this is our Trader Joe's Snack Time. Everybody knows who watches the show and listens all the time that I work at Trader Joe's down in East Liberty. They are not a sponsor of the show, but they did give me permission to do this, so I thank them. For that, if they ever want to be a sponsor, they're welcome to, and maybe we'll do even more. This week, our Trader Joe's Snack Time. Trader Joe's product is something that truly is a snack. It's Trader Joe's S'mores Cluster. Now, is it something that is good for you or not good for you? I would say it is good for you because it makes your tongue feel good.

Steve: I would say no in the nutrition category.

Chris: Trader Joe's s'mores, clusters, mini marshmallows and graham crackers covered with milk chocolate. Absolutely. And the only reason this package is open is because my stepson came over and power washed our back porch. I was not here. And when I came home, I noticed that he must have helped himself to the Trader Joe's s'mores. So if you like s'mores, let me tell you. I would have. I feel against the rules if you ask. I think you should have asked too, but it doesn't matter.

Steve: No, Mark wouldn't have asked.

Chris: There you go. Look, it's already in his mouth.

Steve: Look, there are quite a few left in here.

Chris: Yeah, there are. Yes, there are. There won't be by the time we're done with this segment. All right. So let's talk. Yeah, it's smooth milk chocolate, fluffy marshmallow and crispy graham cracker.

Steve: It doesn't look like a s'more at all. No, it looks like it's a cluster. It looks like a cluster. Yeah, it looks like a big pile of poo, actually. Mm hmm. What do you think? What do you think?

Marc: It's solid. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I don't know. I mean, I'm not like I'm not jumping up and down. Do you want another one? I'll take one more.

Steve: Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Mm hmm. I mean, This does not taste like a s'more.

Marc: They tried to they tried to do something special. I think in that respect, they failed. Now, it's still chocolate.

Steve: I like it is chocolate. It's mostly chocolate. I don't taste any marshmallow. The graham cracker is good inside of it, but it's definitely not a s'more. I would say false advertising.

Chris: OK. All right. Well, you want another one?

Steve: I don't know.

Chris: OK. You want another one? One more.

Steve: I'd rather talk about how a McElroy Blew it. Mm-hmm 18 and 17.

Chris: Okay.

Steve: Here's Mike Mike Mike's comment Did you guys watch the US Open golf yesterday McElroy? uncharacteristically semi folded down the stretch and missed a three and a half footer on 18 to force a playoff one well

Marc: Well, I was watching the whole thing live. Here's Jackson Winski up for the Pirates. McElroy had a two stroke lead with five to play. And in the world of big league golf, that's pretty good. That's pretty solid. That's pretty good about yourself. And beyond that, what was interesting was DeChambeau had a great shot, I think maybe on like 15 or something, and he got a birdie. So he pulled to within one. But then on the next hole, DeChambeau missed like a three-footer. And back to two real quick there. And then the Rory collapse just occurred.

Steve: Well, you have a really interesting statistic on four-foot putters by McElroy.

Marc: Right. McElroy, The statistic was something like Rory McIlroy had made 496 out of his last 496 putts from four feet or less. Oh man. Can you imagine? Number 497 and number 499 were misses.

null: Oh man.

Steve: At the end to win a championship. Yeah, that's what do you do?

Marc: It was it was just it was awful.

Steve: I don't talk to the media afterwards.

Marc: That's for sure Well, he didn't actually he's getting a lot of crap about that. Yeah, he is Golf it's a gentleman's game, right? Yeah, and you're supposed to be a good sport. Yep. Oh But, you know, look, I mean, I can sort of sympathize with McElroy here because, you know, McElroy has come close a number of times since winning his five majors, but he hasn't won one since, I think, 2013. So, you know, it's a long time. 11 I think he's been a runner-up like two times and he's been a top 10 like five times something like that I mean this was his it was you know, it was one and he totally choked it I mean, I I've I never thought in my life that I would say like Rory McIlroy is a choker. Yeah, like he Totally choked this away.

Chris: Well, the question is does he become a choker going forward? Oh I don't know. It's a mental game. It's a very mental game.

Marc: I mean, he's he's so talented. I mean, he's one of these guys that. You know, even though he's not winning majors, he's all he's most of the time he's in it. And, you know, he's like, you know, somewhere between the number one and the number three golfer in the world, like consistently during all this time. So, you know, he's going to continue to have chances. But boy, he needed this one to sort of get into the next grouping. Yeah. You know, like if he wins this, It's number six. And then with that kind of a momentum, maybe you get the eight or nine. Right. You know, right now.

Steve: It might just be five, you know, who's not, you know, who's not a choker. Oh, Neil Shipley. Do you know who that guy is?

Marc: Yeah, but he's not that good. I mean, he's just he's just he's just the best amateur.

Steve: He's not that good. Do you know who else won the U.S. Open and the Masters as an amateur? Well, Tiger Woods, I don't know. Yeah, Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods. All right. But, you know, he, well, he is.

Marc: I mean, that's pretty elite. I mean, look, I mean, obviously he's a good golfer, right? But, you know, I can't be elite. Well, this is what this is what I can't stand. Don't you like about him?

Steve: Is it his long hair? No. Is it his big build?

Marc: He is a little big build. Both are problems. Is that a problem for you, Mark? No, no, no.

Steve: It shouldn't be because that's what we are. No, no, no.

Marc: What kind of irritates me about golf, what irritates me about golf, they do it at the Masters, they do it at the US Open, is when they're giving the champion trophy. Okay. They got it. They got to give the like little two minutes to the low amateur. Like who cares? You know, the winner shot minus six. Like you were like plus five. You sucked. Actually, you know what I mean? It was plus one. That wasn't too bad. But you know, like, I mean, come on man. Like look, you know, get to the winner's circle. I don't care if you're an amateur or not. Win as an amateur. Then I'll say you're great.

Steve: You have, you have hate for him. Maybe this will help you like him a little bit more. Do you know who his sponsor is? I do not.

Marc: Arby's. That's a good one. That's pretty good, right?

Chris: Mike times in. Chipley was the low amateur of both the masters and this US Open.

Steve: So by the way, I don't know about Tiger, but I know Nicholas was definitely one of the other guys. So, okay. All right, well that yeah, he Mike he's actually turning pro after this tournament. Yeah, so we'll see if so We'll see if he actually can't be with the big boys. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Chris: Well, and if he cuts his hair Would you like him a lot if he loses?

Marc: Often often what will happen is it usually muscle it often takes you like three or four years Would he be more attractive to you if he cut his hair and lost a little weight?

Chris: Oh

Marc: I don't find him attractive because of the size and the hair and just overall facial features being less than par.

Steve: But he doesn't have symmetry in his face, no symmetry, but that has nothing to do with it.

Marc: I mean, I just, I just don't, I don't, it's not that I don't like him. I don't like this whole louding of the amateurs.

Steve: Like we're very much aware.

Chris: Yeah. It's annoying to me. It would be like having the, the, uh, MVP, uh, major league baseball, the celebration and the handing of the trophy and then bringing up the MVP of the triple a of triple a.

Steve: Yeah, or just be like, I had a Calder Cup trophy winners there. Yeah.

Marc: Right. Right. Family before the Stanley Cup is right. Right. Exactly.

Steve: That's just stupid. It is stupid. I have to agree with you in the stupidness and the badness of that situation. Right.

Chris: Okay. Thanks for watching the sports porch live. If you are on Facebook, uh, LinkedIn, YouTube, and X as well as Instagram. And we're going to drop the podcast right after the show on the I heart radio app, apple podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your frigging podcast. Paul skeins now has five strikeouts. He's only given up a run in three hits. Um, he's calmed down leading four to one.

Marc: Yeah. So that's what, that's what those great pitchers are like, you know, it's like you got to get to them early and if you can, you get to them early and then they'd settle in.

Chris: And then I, I need to change that because he, uh, now has six strikeouts. So, uh, a first official Chris Chotto on Instagram says, love the show guys. Thanks, bud. Really appreciate it. Share it with your friends, man. Subscribe to the podcast, please leave us a review.

Steve: Leave us a review if you feel like it.

Marc: I think we got Pat off track here. Oh my God, where has Pat been? I don't know what this is about. Can anybody decipher this?

Chris: I always thought Klein was the MP of AAA. I'm not sure if he skipped the V because of the bourbon that he's been drinking or… Well, I hope.

Steve: Because Friday was National Bourbon Day.

Chris: I hope he's still partaking. Is that your favorite holiday now?

Steve: Is it more than bigger than Father's Day? I had to take off work.

Marc: Yeah, I don't know if that's AAA baseball or AAA like the auto.

Chris: I don't know. I don't know. Oh yeah, MVP of AAA, Cline. I think he's making fun of me because I've talked about my father. The Yankees won it a long time ago and all that crap. So who knows? But Pat, we're glad you're back and we're also glad you continue to be off track. Yes. Bad off track. Okay, moving on to what we are watching. What we are watching, there's millions of things to watch and stream on the internet, and we spend a lot of time wasting time doing that, because that's what old guys like us like to do.

Steve: Hey, we got time. Yeah, I did a bunch of it yesterday. Not a lot of hockey going on now. Not a lot of baseball. Well, there is.

Chris: There's a lot of baseball, but you know. Oh, but can I do a double?

Marc: Yeah, sure. I want to give a negative review to one that you both gave a positive view to.

Chris: Okay, so we'll add yours in there. But I am going to invite the ire of the Grand Schwabini here by saying that I have begun, now I do have a new show that I watched, I have begun re-watching The Walking Dead. I started from season one. It's worth it because I stopped watching in like season six and I also was watching fear the walking dead and I think I stopped in like season four there. So I have committed myself to watching the entire series all offshoots all the way through to the end. So that's cool. But I'm only in season three right now.

Marc: That's cool. But I also think it's kind of weird. Like I don't understand the double watching. I love double watching.

Steve: No, I think it's worth it on some movies that are epic.

Chris: I just feel like you're missing new stuff. I'm not. I'm also watching new stuff because I have time, bro.

Steve: I feel like I need to go back and watch Game of Thrones because House of Dragons is on. Oh, it came on last night. I didn't watch the first episode. I watched the first one, but that's not my review. So stuff when that happens… Was it good? Just tell me, was it good?

Marc: I'm not going to, it can't be a review.

Chris: You have to, I'm not going. And what I do is I wait a couple of weeks because they drop it once a week. I want to be able to binge it because I want to binge Amelia Clark. That's what I want to do. Do we got a funny comment coming in here?

Steve: Chuck was Shane.

Chris: Chuck was shaking.

Steve: That's Pat on track. That's the best. Where is Chuck when you need him? That's a total inside job there. Sorry, people out in the cyber land. You don't know. I protected Lori.

Chris: I protected Carl. All right. All right. So what we're watching, what does that mean? Well, what we do is we pick a show or a movie or a documentary, whatever you want to watch. And the only criteria is that we have to finish said season of the show or the full documentary or movie. We don't have to fit it. If it has five seasons, you have to finish all five seasons. You just have to complete the season you're watching. And then we do a little review. So this week we are going to start with H J uh oh h j is i've seen this i know this is a climb i've seen documentary i saw no sci-fi i saw is is there oh i'm gonna ask you a quick question before i put it up yep is there a second season coming there is oh thank god it's

Steve: No way. It's out?

Chris: Yes. I will be watching. Outer Range.

Marc: I've watched that too. Josh Berlin. Actually, the second season is out now. It is out. Yes.

Chris: I am so psyched. Yes. Yeah. I want to watch it too. Outer Range on Prime. Great show.

Steve: Go ahead. So I watched the first season. And I have to tell you, this is a total mind cluster. You know what? Yes. You could say fuck now. It is a mind fuck because there's this big hole.

Marc: Yeah, it is.

Chris: Are you sure this isn't an internet site?

Steve: I'm sure. And it's in the middle of this guy's field. And there's a bunch of weird rocks. And there are people that come and go that seemingly know what this thing is about, but they're not talking about it. And Josh Brolin really has trouble explaining himself. Time and time again, and kind of at the end of the whole season, he finally explains himself and you're like, wow, that guy's really effed up. And I have a feeling in season two, you're going to find out why he's effed up. I hope so. because you don't understand anything at the end of season one, except very little, except there is, there is one plot twist where you're like, ah, should have seen that one.

Chris: I, I, I know where there's, there's the girl that has some kind of connection with the girl that, right.

Steve: Autumn comes in out of nowhere and she just suddenly feels like she belongs there. Right. Like they call her the hippie girl Yeah, but really she has a true connection with the whole the whole right?

Marc: Yeah. No season one was very good I enjoyed it.

Steve: I actually really liked the neighbors the most. Yeah, those boys were totally messed up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And when that boy hooks up with autumn, you're just like cringing every time they kiss you're like, really? They're going to do that again. Yeah.

Chris: Let's not, let's not, let's not ruin it for everybody, but yeah, I'm going to have to go back and watch season one because I forget a lot of it because I was worried. I think the pandemic got in the way and all and the writer's strike, to be honest, I don't remember. It was the writers. Yeah. You got to go back and watch it.

Steve: It wants to be a Western. It takes place in Wyoming. right and then like they're like and it's not there's like a battle between the the families and you can tell it goes deep yeah but they never really you never really like well it's it's over where the hole is yeah well as you find out the guy wants to land the holes on yeah the guy wants the hole he definitely wants the whole hole he wants the entire He wants the hole in his property.

Chris: That he wants the entire hole.

Steve: Yes. Definitely. I think it's, uh, I can't wait to see season two, but eh.

Chris: I wonder if the hole gets any bigger.

Steve: Maybe we should all watch season two.

Marc: Well, season two is on now. It just came on.

Steve: Maybe we should commit to season two for next week.

Marc: Yeah, we can't commit to anything right now. Oh my God. Look at Pat off track here. I don't know if I believe this.

Chris: Josh Brolin was a client of my firm. Spoke to him a few times. Guy next to me kept looking at me like, if you mentioned Diane Lane, I'll kill you. I believe Pat.

Marc: I believe Pat. What does Diane Lane have to do with it? I think they were married.

Chris: They were doing a thing. Yeah. I don't know.

Steve: I think they were a thing.

Chris: Yeah. Well, see, that's the Pat off track that we know and love. He just assumes that all of the nonsense he spits at us, somehow we understand it no matter what.

Marc: Why would a successful movie star who probably lives in L.A. want anything to do with Pat? I don't know.

Steve: Maybe he was hanging out in Florida.

Chris: No, a few years back, he was running some kind of internet trading platform that had clients. And he should be a millionaire by now, but instead he's living in a retirement community and banging old ladies on the golf course while Dr. Vine dies.

Steve: It's not a bad life.

Chris: Isn't that what you're doing? It's a good life. I guess it's a good life, but I'm the old lady part of it.

Marc: of it is he's still hung up on what we're going to high school with. He is Chris.

Steve: We're old men. We are old old ladies. Makes sense.

Chris: That's true.

Marc: I feel like another comment is Spielberg to now you're being ridiculous. Yeah.

Chris: All right. All right. All right. Out of range on prime is what HK is watching. The Grand Schwab Beanie. I actually, this is a couple of seasons, right? Two seasons. Right. And it was the same thing. It was like on a couple of years ago and then another season just came out. Because I started watching it like a year, year and a half ago, and I stopped.

Marc: I don't, I don't know. I don't think so.

Steve: Show it. I gotta know. Come on.

Chris: The Tourist on Netflix. Net, net, net, net, whatever the hell I just said. Netflix.

Marc: Yeah, this was, this was an interesting one. I, I would say, you know, so I've, I've seen the two seasons and they're pretty short. They're like six each, I think. Right. So you can get through it fairly quickly. It was really weird because I think that's why I quit watching it. Well, here's the thing. So, uh, you know, I got this recommendation from my dad. My dad said it was great. Okay. Okay. All right. So, um, I started watching it and basically it's about a guy who gets into a car accident and he loses his memory. That's how far I got. He's, he's got amnesia, right? And the first season, it was kind of like, It took a long time to get going. Yeah. Like it was like, yeah, like I could have like potentially dropped it at like the third episode. Cause I'm like, it's just taken so long to like get somewhere with this. Right. Um, but then, you know, I, I kind of finished out the first season. My wife loved the first season. I thought it was okay. I have to say, I thought the second season was phenomenal. Wow. That peaks my interest. Phenomenal. It was amazing. It all came together for you. Yeah, it did. And it was really, really good. So I highly recommend it. It's basically this guy is trying to figure out who he is. And by the end of season one, you don't really know who he is. Just a lot of people are trying to kill him. And then in season two, he starts kind of learning more about about who he is, not a heck of a lot. And I think they do set it up pretty well for a season three if it if it's going to come back.

Chris: OK, the tourist on Netflix, the Grand Schwabini.

Marc: But I want to do my little sidetrack.

Chris: OK, let's do yours. Do the sidetrack.

Marc: My little sidetrack here.

Chris: I have a feeling we've talked about.

Marc: We thought we have. We finally gave in and gave baby reindeer a shot.

Steve: Oh, I told you not to watch it with Amy.

Marc: Well, listen, no, no, no. I think Amy, Amy is more interested than me. OK, so we went through two episodes. I just have no desire to watch anymore. And I'll tell you why. But you can't give a review.

Chris: You didn't finish it.

Marc: Well, but I'm going to tell you, I'm going to, I'm telling you breaking your damn rule. I'm telling why people will stop and start the start and stop. Whatever. I just want to say one thing. Okay. It's all yours. I watched the first two episodes and I'm like, this guy deserves everything that's coming to him.

Chris: I can't disagree with you.

Steve: No, I mean, you're not wrong there.

Marc: So I'm just like, I don't care. I don't have any sympathy for him. He's an idiot. Yeah. He's a total idiot. And she's nuts. Yeah. Which we knew right now, but she deserves it. It's like, I was expecting a story where I'm going to be like, Oh man, this girl's just crazy. And he's a normal dude. And what's going on? No, he deserved everything. Okay.

Chris: So, so let me just lay this on you and I'm on hockey Jesus to pay real close attention.

Steve: He's not wrong by the way.

Chris: Yeah, but, but he doesn't know.

Marc: I'm sure there's things that I don't know cause I didn't watch the whole thing.

Chris: He doesn't know what's happened to this guy. That's true. Yeah. And which would make complete sense as to why he's so screwed up and he's an idiot. This is true. You got to watch the rest of it.

Marc: You're saying that if I watch the rest of it, I will, I will gain some clarity. Yes.

Steve: You will gain some clarity, but you still won't like the guy. Still won't like. No, no, no, no, no.

Chris: He's not, he's not a likable character.

Marc: No. But. Will I like the show any better?

Steve: Slightly.

Chris: How much of it has Amy watched versus how much have you watched?

Marc: We watched it together. Okay.

Chris: So she's still kind of into watching it.

Marc: Well, you know, her kind of thing now is like, are we giving up on baby reindeer? No. It kind of seems like you're not into it. I'm like, yeah, I'm not into it. I feel like this guy deserves everything he gets.

Chris: Here's the thing I'm going to tell you about.

Steve: Watch out for the sadomasochist.

Chris: About baby reindeer. Oh, a schwarber, two home runs tonight. Two schwarbums tonight, by the way. Well, that's Pat off track, forgetting that this is a Pittsburgh show.

Steve: Don't let him take you there.

Chris: Here's what I'm going to say about Baby Reindeer. It is one of the most fucked up shows I've ever watched.

Steve: It is disturbing. It doesn't get less disturbing.

Marc: Do you also know that the lady is suing Netflix for like $170 million?

Chris: Yeah, but she's not saying that what happened was not true. She's basically saying that it's just, it's making her life hell.

Marc: It's portrayed her terribly and it's making life horrible.

Chris: Yeah, which to me is kind of like, I think, look, you've done this. I don't know.

Marc: I think that's a win. I think that's a win. I don't know. She probably had to sign off on something. And I'm sure she did. And, you know, whatever she signed off on, she's going to get some millions out of it.

Steve: Sure. She probably already has. Right. Right.

Chris: Look, she was crazy, but she wasn't stupid. were things she did that were stupid. But, but, but I'm just telling you the, the backstory of this, which comes out sometimes excruciatingly slow, but once it starts to move, you start to realize like this guy was prime for this and a crazy bitch like that woman was prime to find this guy. And it's a true story and you guys, you'd stick it out.

Marc: But see, that's the thing. I think this whole thing is portrayed that it's about this woman, and I feel like this guy is equally a disaster.

Chris: There you go. I agree with you. That's why you need to finish it out, Schwaber. Maybe I will, maybe I won't. Well, look, you broke your own rule, so now you're going to have to live up to it. Okay.

Marc: Well, no, it was just such a heightened sense of dissatisfaction.

Chris: But you got to watch the whole thing. And if you're still dissatisfied, you can bring it back on.

Marc: So you want me to waste another four hours of my life?

Chris: I mean, as if that would be as if that would be difficult for you. I mean, come on. All right. Okay. Guy has no kids. He's wasted most of his life.

Steve: And he's got a generator. I mean, you know, we can watch it whenever.

Marc: Yeah. So what do you got for us? What do you got for us? A documentary?

Chris: No, no, no, no, no, no.

Marc: You're a, you're Amy says we can try another episode. Amy, listen to them all.

Chris: Watch them all. We'll try one more. I'll watch them all. Watch them all. Okay. What we're watching TD technical director. That would be me is watching something on actually I have finished watching the first season, believe it or not today, earlier today. Oh, I'm not surprised. Dark Matter on Apple TV. This is a Klein show, all the way. Dark Matter on Apple TV.

Marc: I may have seen a season or two of this. It's only one season. It's only one season?

Chris: It just came on. Oh, then I didn't see it. Yeah. I did not. Yeah. So this Joel Edkerton, who's the guy that's looking a little sad there. Basically, this is a show that it's about the multiverse. so we've all heard that we've all heard that like we all have parallel lives different things so what basically the premise to this outer reaches it far from that but Probably not. Yeah. So the premise is that his character is a pretty intelligent scientist who's trying to come up with a way to explore the multiverse. And what happens is the multiverse kind of comes to him through its own doorway. I don't want to give anything away here because it's actually really good. through its own doorway. And then he has to try to find a way back to his doorway. And it's based in reality. So it's not like not high science fiction. You know what I mean? There's like no spaceships. There's no aliens. It's just they've discovered how to access the multiverse.

Steve: It's in reality. The multiverse is in reality. That's what you're saying. Yeah, pretty much. OK, I just want to get that clear. I believe in the multiverse. I know you do. Yes, you're in. You're allowed to blow.

Chris: I am a full blown believer.

Marc: I just, of course, you still believe that there's aliens here and you're one of them.

Chris: Yeah, well, see, the thing is, you're a denier. So what that tells me is you're one of them.

Steve: When you find the door, let me know. I'm going to shut it, dude.

Chris: No, dude, I'm telling you, when I find the door, I am walking in and taking over the whole damn world.

Steve: Well, you'll just be in another world. You'll be in another time. And you'll still be here, actually. So, actually, it sucks for you. There'll be two of us you have to deal with.

Chris: Yeah. I'm wondering what you guys would look like in the other world.

Steve: When you get there, let us know. Yeah. I'll send you a postcard. You know what? Maybe next week we'll be in the parallel universe. What am I, a reptile? Being here doing the same things.

Chris: No, Schwab, you're probably, you know what you are? What? In the multiverse? What's that? You are a devout evangelical preacher.

Steve: Well, yeah, you're raising money. You dance like crazy. You know what? It would be in the multiverse.

Chris: And I would go through a door and he would be he would be a reformed Jew raising money, a.k.a. Steve Martin in leap of faith. Yeah. God's talking back.

Marc: I don't know what you're doing. You're very strange. I'm a strange guy. I am a strange guy.

Steve: I agree with the multiverse.

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